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Proof that Gobal Warming is a joke and Al Gore is an idiot, just some facts

75th said:
Just another way for the left to expand government control and influence into our lives.

Correct. The issue isn't important. Being able to further regulate individuals and businesses is what this is all about. If it weren't global warming, we'd be doing the same dance over global cooling. Since it keeps bouncing in both directions, they are calling it "climate change" so they are covered either way.
 
It has traditionally been that the liberal minded big government types try to solve problems by jumping to conclusions, passing needless legislation, and regulating things that make no difference.

Why can't we use real data to make some adjustments that will help, instead of taking a wild ass guess and causing a world wide panic resulting in crazy prices for things there are no shortage of?
 
75th said:
It would. What wouldnt be make sense is doing stuff like taxing individuals who drive specific types of automobiles, running the risk of corn shortages because we decide to burn a large portion of it for 2mpg more, etc.

Stuff thats already being proposed or in motion.

Would you mind elaborating please.

I do watch a few bits of American news, BBC 24 does have an hour blurb of it from one channel, but I can't remember if it is NBC or erm........ :)

Anyway it is quite interesting to see different takes on the news.

We don't get the same sort of thing either side of the ocean.

I know that in England, there is a lot of information about how certain alternative fuel crops are not the big solution that they have been made out to be, and that there is no point just jumping onto the alternative fuel bandwagon if it is going to be just as environmentally, economically and socially damaging (especially in the countries where some of these crops will be grown.
 
Tatyana said:
Would you mind elaborating please.

I do watch a few bits of American news, BBC 24 does have an hour blurb of it from one channel, but I can't remember if it is NBC or erm........ :)

Anyway it is quite interesting to see different takes on the news.

We don't get the same sort of thing either side of the ocean.

I know that in England, there is a lot of information about how certain alternative fuel crops are not the big solution that they have been made out to be, and that there is no point just jumping onto the alternative fuel bandwagon if it is going to be just as environmentally, economically and socially damaging (especially in the countries where some of these crops will be grown.

In multiple states (as well as federall, I believe) there have been numerous propositions to tax individuals who drive SUVs or any vehicle that doesnt get (around) 20-25mpg.

Soccer moms will have it rough.
 
Tatyana said:
Whether or not there is an issue with climate change, there is an issue with coal and petrol as a limited resource, air pollution from car emissions causing health problems in children and the elderly etc.

I would have thought that addressing some of the energy policies rather than trying to disprove climate change would be far more logical and productive.

I often wonder if it is more about people fearing the unknown and change rather than the actual issues.

Technology will advance, and it would be wise to seek out alternate energy sources, reduce pollution and waste wouldn't you agree?

no issue with the availability of coal yet. Toxins from new cars are pretty much negligable; technology like cat. converters can pretty much eliminate NOx, VoC's, and PM10, so health issues aren't that menacing either. global warming has taken center stage because CO2 from petrol cannot be solved with technology, burning oil will always release the same amount of CO2
 
What the article fails to point out is the world is indeed getting warmer. If you ever visited a glacier when you were a kid, go back and take a look at it today. It will shock you.

The question is, is this a normal weather pattern or are we really fucking up our climate.
Wouldn't it suck if we sat around on our asses and did nothing and then 20 yrs from now found out it is the later? The downside to that is too great, we have to take some action.

I am not a believer that the government can legislate correctly anything especially something this important. This has to be something that is demanded from the consumer!!!
 
jdynasty said:
all of it is foolish, global warming is just the flava of the decade, starting in 2010 we will be discussing how the sun is about to burn out, didn't you get the memo

In the 1970's we were going to enter a new ice age.

In the 1980's it was the ozone hole.

Now it is global warming.

The media, that wants to destroy capitalism and everything it represents, creates problems, blames mankind, and concocts weird solutions to fix non-existent problems.
 
75th said:
It would. What wouldnt be make sense is doing stuff like taxing individuals who drive specific types of automobiles, running the risk of corn shortages because we decide to burn a large portion of it for 2mpg more, etc.

Stuff thats already being proposed or in motion.

Alternative fuels and food shortages are not linked. The secretary of commerce got on the news about two weeks ago and said that speculation over alternative fuels might have up to a 2% impact on the food cost situation.

The food costs argument is a great way for oil to keep their stranglehold on our 155 billion gallon per year fuel use.
 
mrplunkey said:
Alternative fuels and food shortages are not linked. The secretary of commerce got on the news about two weeks ago and said that speculation over alternative fuels might have up to a 2% impact on the food cost situation.

The food costs argument is a great way for oil to keep their stranglehold on our 155 billion gallon per year fuel use.

converting land to be used for biofuel stock releases a fuckton of carbon into the atmosphere and pretty negates the benefits from a global warming perspective. the process also results in monocropping which ruins the soil and requires a crazy amount of resources to sustain future growth
 
billfred said:
What the article fails to point out is the world is indeed getting warmer. If you ever visited a glacier when you were a kid, go back and take a look at it today. It will shock you.

The question is, is this a normal weather pattern or are we really fucking up our climate.
Wouldn't it suck if we sat around on our asses and did nothing and then 20 yrs from now found out it is the later? The downside to that is too great, we have to take some action.

I am not a believer that the government can legislate correctly anything especially something this important. This has to be something that is demanded from the consumer!!!


typical left wing fear mongering
 
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