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Proof that Gobal Warming is a joke and Al Gore is an idiot, just some facts

billfred said:
Trust me - I am a right wing republican that makes my living in the oil industry. Sorry - left wing label doesn't work here.

I can't even trust my own hand to be near my penis, why would I trust you?
 
mrplunkey said:
Alternative fuels and food shortages are not linked. The secretary of commerce got on the news about two weeks ago and said that speculation over alternative fuels might have up to a 2% impact on the food cost situation.

The food costs argument is a great way for oil to keep their stranglehold on our 155 billion gallon per year fuel use.

Total BS. You can not food energy to fuel energy and not reduce food supply.
 
billfred said:
Total BS. You can not food energy to fuel energy and not reduce food supply.
When you have millions and millions of acres set aside to not grow corn on, combined with paying farmers not to grow corn, you can safely increase feed corn consumption without impacting food costs.

Even Monsanto tried diffuse the situation a while back. If you look at their historical yield increases and project them forward combined with releasing land for corn, its very easily done.

Besides, whens the last time you ate #2 yellow corn (which is what ethanol plants use). You take a pound of animal-designated corn in and still produce 1/3 of a pound of animal feed (DDGS) out.

Disclaimer: I will admit corn ethanol may slightly increase the cost of high-fructose corn syrup. Personally I wish it would go-up 2000% so my tax money wouldn't go toward buying insulin and insulin supplies toward people who can't put down the coca-cola.
 
BNG said:
It has traditionally been that the liberal minded big government types try to solve problems by jumping to conclusions, passing needless legislation, and regulating things that make no difference.

Why can't we use real data to make some adjustments that will help, instead of taking a wild ass guess and causing a world wide panic resulting in crazy prices for things there are no shortage of?


I always find the two terms, liberal and conservative a bit confusing.

Is there really that much difference in the parties in the US?

I just watched a blurb on BBC 24 about how the Conservative party in the UK now has a major platform on addressing homelessness, as the 5th richest country in the world, it was not acceptable so many people slept rough, and how the Conservative party was going to address both economic and social wealth.

I do agree on the real data bit.

The media does love to jump on a 'good story', and that is all it is, a 'story', not facts.

Climatology is just so complex, I think it does get over-simplified and mistakes are made in reporting things about global climate.
 
Tatyana said:
I always find the two terms, liberal and conservative a bit confusing.

Is there really that much difference in the parties in the US?

There is a massive difference here in the US.

Liberals solve problems with regulation and with making government play a bigger role in people's lives. Their motives are often good -- they just believe that government can improve people's lives through transferring wealth. There's also a pseudointellectual air of "I'm doing what's best for you" in their tone though -- because a lot of liberals feel that their good intentions make their theories and programs justified regardless of their actual efficacy.

Conservatives (true ones) try to minimize the scale and scope of government and let free markets sort things out. Its a fundamentally cynical view of government and many conservatives believe that as long as its run by people, people will be wasteful and corrupt. Conservatives can sometimes cling to their beliefs too strongly and fail to give some people a "leg up" who could actually use one. For that reason, conservatives often get tagged with being "mean spirited" or "cold hearted".

I personally believe that liberals underestimate "the masses" and want to do what's "best for them". Conservatives overestimate "the masses" and think any given person can lift themselves up out of bad conditions and thrive.
 
LOL, so no mid-point party?

There doesn't seem to be that much difference between the parties in the UK.


It does seem that whatever party is in, 50% think they are doing a great job, 50% think they are doing a rubbish job.

And they get blamed for all the woes of the world.
 
Nothing in that article conclusive or even slightly convincing. So if it’s the case that this is a big hoax then what was with all that speeded up photography showing the icecaps melting over decades and the scientific community issuing warnings? This is the problem with the internet information age, what to believe, there's just as much misinformation out there as there is legitimate fact.
 
mrplunkey said:
Alternative fuels and food shortages are not linked. The secretary of commerce got on the news about two weeks ago and said that speculation over alternative fuels might have up to a 2% impact on the food cost situation.

The food costs argument is a great way for oil to keep their stranglehold on our 155 billion gallon per year fuel use.

Ah, did not know that. Thanks for destroying half my argument.

I hate being wrong.
 
JayC9 said:
Nothing in that article conclusive or even slightly convincing. So if it’s the case that this is a big hoax then what was with all that speeded up photography showing the icecaps melting over decades and the scientific community issuing warnings? This is the problem with the internet information age, what to believe, there's just as much misinformation out there as there is legitimate fact.

I think there is a big issue with media literacy and scientific literacy.

I usually only read scientific and medical journals, and even the 'dumbed down' scientific magazines, like New Scientist and Scientific American are not on many people's reading lists.

I think people believe that just because it is in the news, newspaper, or there is a website, it must be true.

You really have to go to the source, or an 'easier' scientific mag like the ones I mentioned.

Otherwise, it is likely to be skewed or just opinion, heresay, fear mongering, or propaganda really.
 
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