Prohormones don't work

[bigpimp]

damn, really bro......all this time i thought they worked........thanks for the heads up

 

[sereneman]

19 nor4 andriol definitely worked for me and it also lowered my testosterone levels well below normal because I had it checked. I was on it for 16 months straight when I stated to notice that I was having a hard time cumming and staying aroused. The stuff made me strong as shit. I know it worked because I have been lifting for 24 years. I've been taking low doses of test. now for about 17 weeks and there's really not much difference than when I was on 19nor4. I tried the 1ad and it didn't work as well for me. It lowered my sex drive almost immediately.

 

[muslix]

correct me if I'm wrong but 1-ad makes you bigger because of the extra estrogen it puts in your system making you hold a lot more water. 1test would work better for lean gains but then again it still sucks.

 

[Nutri-Wrestler]

correct me if I'm wrong but 1-ad makes you bigger because of the extra estrogen it puts in your system making you hold a lot more water. 1test would work better for lean gains but then again it still sucks.

Ok, ill correct you cause you are wrong. it doesnt aromatize to estrogen.

BTW- 1-ad is a precursor to 1-Test and is more oraly bioavailable.

 

[Simon Keller]

Pro-Hormones don't work? 1-AD and 1-Test don't work? Sh*t we're doing this again, OK, OK, I'll play along; Yea man, I know what you mean, they don't work, and creatine that stuff is garbage, and when you think about it who really needs protein I think that stuff is highly over-rated!!! This is really sad

 

[pa1ad]

I must say, I'm surprised by everyones response. When I brought this up a while back I was mobbed with derision by the Pat Arnold fan club.

Viking: You're 100% correct about everything except one thing. That was 9 pounds of fat and one pound of WATER.

I also think it's funny that the people who make this stuff will cite 50 billion references on how it can't shut down the HPTA or aromatize or affect libido. But it does -- far worse than real gear.

It's criminal to use steroids but selling this stuff isn't. Go figure.

Your stupidity is what is criminal.

 

[Dante B.]

Nelson, you continue to beat this bush just as often as a hirsute woman shaving her bikini-line.

However, I can manage to pull the noose from around my neck for but a few, if you want to argue this nonsense once again.

As for the other non-cerebral degenerates hurling verbal- excrement, you're not worth the time (hint, at least Nelson's a good writer, you're just flat-out troglodytes "the FDA should ban them", "all the side-effects with none the benefit". Yawn. If you're going to say something stupid, at least be creative!).

 

[40butpumpin]

I think I'm somewhat in the minority in that I've actually spent a decent amount of time with BOTH PH's and actual AS. I don't give a shit about either argument to be perfectly honest and I really don't care who believes me. I know for a fact that PH's do work -- and I know because they worked for me. On the up side they won't give you the bullshit bloated water gains that lot's of test or dbol will give you but on the downside you can be shut down harder then on the real thing. My only advice to someone using PH's is that you have to approach the recovery aspect like you would the real thing. If you don't you're going to be unpleasantly surprised. I'm talking about things like a good anti-e and HCG. $0.02

 

[javaguru]

No offense but just because you took 200mg androstenedione capsules 3x per day in 1996 and they didn't give you 20lbs in eight weeks, most likely they did nothing, doesn't mean the latest generation of OTC steroids are crap. The vast majority of people get excellent results from the latest generation. Likewise, using "real" steroids carries more risk than many of you realize. Using the dosages common today one can easily get a statuatory bump to distribution and end up be sentenced to a MINIMUM of five years in prison. I've seen a statuatory bump at greater than 50ml. If you're running 75mg TA everyday for eight weeks and it's dosed at 75mg/ml you're already considered a dealer by statute before factoring in the 500mg/week of test you're running. Some people have good lives they would rather not risk screwing up by becoming a convicted felon.

 

[feelin_kinda_saucey]

No offense but just because you took 200mg androstenedione capsules 3x per day in 1996 and they didn't give you 20lbs in eight weeks, most likely they did nothing, doesn't mean the latest generation of OTC steroids are crap. The vast majority of people get excellent results from the latest generation. Likewise, using "real" steroids carries more risk than many of you realize. Using the dosages common today one can easily get a statuatory bump to distribution and end up be sentenced to a MINIMUM of five years in prison. I've seen a statuatory bump at greater than 50ml. If you're running 75mg TA everyday for eight weeks and it's dosed at 75mg/ml you're already considered a dealer by statute before factoring in the 500mg/week of test you're running. Some people have good lives they would rather not risk screwing up by becoming a convicted felon.

GOOD FUCKIN POST. ITS ABOUT MOTHERFUCKIN TIME SOMEBODY BROUGHT THIS "SIDE EFFECT" UP.... NOT TO MENTION THE THOUSANDS OF OTHER TINY SIDE EFFECTS YOU DONT SEE CREAPING UP ON YOU TILL THEY HAVE HIT, AND I KNOW THIS FROM FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.... JUST GO TO THE ANABOLICS BOARD AND 1 OUT OF 5 POSTS WILL BE SOMEBODY HAVING WHAT THEY ( A DRUG USER) CALLS A PROBLEM, ANE WHAT DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS CALL A SIDE EFFECT....YES THERE ARE SIDE EFFECTS WITH BOTH PH'S AND REAL GEAR, BUT WE ARE OFTEN BLINDED BY WHAT IT DOES FOR US ON A POSITIVE NOTE...

ANYWAYS, THE LATEST PH'S DO WORK , AND WORK WELL. OBVIOUSLY NOT AS WELL AS LEGIT GEAR, BUT WELL ENOUGH CONSIDERING SOME SIDE EFFECTS THEY DONT CARRY WITH THEM. AND LIKE ANYTHING PH'S OR GEAR, IF YOUR DIET AND TRAINING IS NOT RIGHT ON WHILE YOU ARE ON THEM , YOUR RESULTS ARE GOING TO BE POOR NO MATTER WHAT YOUR USING .