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Prison Lifting: For or Against?

He's a fucking convicted murderer! What if it would have been your child or wife or mother he brutally murdered, would you still have the same feeling? Would you feel good knowing that the man who murdered your family member was going to get to leave prison and go and perform on a stage where people can clap and cheer for him? He needs to be executed in my opinion. For a small time crook, sure, I am for them being rehabilitated and for them having things to work forward too. But for a piece of shit murderer or rapist or child molester, fuck them all. You guys are the type of bleeding heart people who give pieces of shit like him more rights than the victoms. You guys flame on but I will never change my opinion. BamBam
 
Bam Bam said:
He's a fucking convicted murderer! What if it would have been your child or wife or mother he brutally murdered, would you still have the same feeling? Would you feel good knowing that the man who murdered your family member was going to get to leave prison and go and perform on a stage where people can clap and cheer for him? He needs to be executed in my opinion. For a small time crook, sure, I am for them being rehabilitated and for them having things to work forward too. But for a piece of shit murderer or rapist or child molester, fuck them all. You guys are the type of bleeding heart people who give pieces of shit like him more rights than the victoms. You guys flame on but I will never change my opinion. BamBam

Thank You...

I guess we're alone in thinking that a convicted murderer has surrendered all of his rights to participate in one of the greatest sports ever.

And am I crazy to think my tax dollars ought not go to support violent criminals making themselves physically stronger?

Anyone who thinks that a violent criminal ought to be allowed to lift in prison has never been a victim or known a victim of a violent crime, and/or lack an adequate sociological imagination to be able to conceive of what it might be like for a rape victim to know their attacker is paying his debt to society by getting huge.... or maybe they are violent people themselves and empathize with violent criminals. Either way...it's irrational. Supporting a murderer's right to participate in a power-lifting meet is more than ludicrous.

Criminals convicted of non-assualtive offenses are another story, however... even then, it should be a select privilege and not a right.
 
It should be based on the individual circumstances of the crime as well as the behavior of the individual while incarcerated.
 
in most prisons the weights are a privilege. you get a write up and its one of the first things you lose. without weights and books in the prison system you pretty much take away all a person has left. we all make mistakes sometimes some of us fuck up to the point of no return. however i believe there is some good in everybody. i dont believe anyone wakes up and decides to destroy their life and end up doing a long prison bid.
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for it for some, but I too feel that violent criminals have no right to freedoms. Espeacially murders, I feel once you end a life yours should be ended too. Im sure some of you saying 100% no would have a big change of heart if you spent time in for say something we find to be an everyday norm. Most of us arnt exactly performing legal operations and what if someday your number got called and you got thrown in for any amount of time I bet you would be glad to be able to continue lifting.
 
JibbyJabba said:


Thank You...

I guess we're alone in thinking that a convicted murderer has surrendered all of his rights to participate in one of the greatest sports ever.

And am I crazy to think my tax dollars ought not go to support violent criminals making themselves physically stronger?

Anyone who thinks that a violent criminal ought to be allowed to lift in prison has never been a victim or known a victim of a violent crime, and/or lack an adequate sociological imagination to be able to conceive of what it might be like for a rape victim to know their attacker is paying his debt to society by getting huge.... or maybe they are violent people themselves and empathize with violent criminals. Either way...it's irrational. Supporting a murderer's right to participate in a power-lifting meet is more than ludicrous.

Criminals convicted of non-assualtive offenses are another story, however... even then, it should be a select privilege and not a right.


My thoughts exactly. Well put.
 
punishment should equal the crime!

VIOLENT-repeat offenders, HELL NA (high security prisions)
nonviolent, first-timers , Ofcousre (low security prision)

unclep
 
Devastation said:
Pro weights in prison systems. Gives those guys something worth striving for.

Let me clarify my post. In prison yes. allowed to leave the confined space of the prison walls for ANY reason, NO.

And for all those who posted eye for an eye type retribution for violent criminals, you obviously are "above" the rest of us walking this planet. And before anyone flames me any shit, I have been touched by violent criminals. A friend of mine, a classmate in junior high, was shot to death in her sleep, along with her mother who was in a different room, by a previously declared "dangerous" escaped mental patient. Yes he made the "choice" to kill, he had a severe imbalane, but I never ever would want to be in a postition to decide who lives and who dies. That is not for me choose. Remember, this is my opinion, and I don't want any flames for it. I realize it is also your opinion and right to believe in what you choose. Whether it is morally right or not is another thread.
 
I agree, it's okay for them to lift weights within the confins of the prison, but they shouldnt under any circumstances be allowed to leave the prison to compete. They are there because they committed a crime, ie...couldnt live within the constraints of the rules and regulations of society. Untill they pay their debt to society, and learn to follow the rules which govern us all, then they shouldn't be allowed to be a part of society in any form. Just my two cents. I know for a fact that they have inter prison powerlifting competitions, which should be good enough to hold them over until they get released.
 
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