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Yeah I think most see best results starting at 500mg wk.
primo w/out test?
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Yeah I think most see best results starting at 500mg wk.
I think i have also heard him say that you can yeild nice gains with only 200mgs of Primo EW. I think i seen him say 100mgs E3D not too long ago i might be wrong though. Nelson?
Coupla things.
Primo would not be a good bridge since it isn't androgenic enough to replace natural test but will suppress natural test.
As far as I know, Arnold didn't use deca. That was some made up shit someone wrote.
Primo will work at any dosage but since the effects are due to direct anabolism the results will be very subtle, if not barely noticable until you get up to around 400 mgs. That's where it seems to show AS LONG AS YOU TAKE IN ENOUGH PROTEIN> That is key with Primo.
I also think it's a good idea to run some androgen to kick it in more but you don;t need much. And extra 250 of test is enough to make really good gains.
Anyone who says they don't make gains on primo isn;t training hard enough. Don't expect puffy swolen size. Primo actually reduces water weight! What you get is solid muscle. But that has to be built.
Primo would not be a good bridge since it isn't androgenic enough to replace natural test but will suppress natural test.
As far as I know, Arnold didn't use deca. That was some made up shit someone wrote.
Primo will work at any dosage but since the effects are due to direct anabolism the results will be very subtle, if not barely noticable until you get up to around 400 mgs. That's where it seems to show AS LONG AS YOU TAKE IN ENOUGH PROTEIN> That is key with Primo.
I also think it's a good idea to run some androgen to kick it in more but you don;t need much. And extra 250 of test is enough to make really good gains.
Anyone who says they don't make gains on primo isn;t training hard enough. Don't expect puffy swolen size. Primo actually reduces water weight! What you get is solid muscle. But that has to be built.
I ran 400mg/week for 16 weeks of primo. Added var for the last 8 weeks.
Gained about 14 lbs. and dropped BF% from 16% to 10%
It's been about 3 months since and I'm still about 12 lbs. over.
Haven't lost much strength gains. It's the recovery post-workout now that I notice the big difference.
At around the 12-16 week period of the cycle I did get really ripped, to the point where people at my work KNEW I was on something. The breakouts of huge pimples also didn't help my case.
But it's cool though. I'll never run primo again. I can't stand having the Himalayas on my face.
I've ran var and t-bol cycles only before the primo/var combo and I never broke out from those cycles.
I'll tell you though, if there is a "shutdown" or "crash" with primo, then it's either really late or I must be one of the very few that hasn't experienced it yet. I'm serious, since my last injection, my military press and curls have actually INCREASED in weight. Bench went down a bit but not much.
In all honesty, and I'll probably get burnt for this, but I ONLY used 2 weeks of nolva for PCT. That's it.
I've had my bloodwork done and doc said everything is normal.
So yeah, the ONLY really bad aspect of primo in my case is the ACNE breakouts that made me a laughingstock in the workplace.
Unfortunately, I'm not willing to go through that again. They've subsided a bit but my skin is still not the same as it was before this particular cycle.
Gained about 14 lbs. and dropped BF% from 16% to 10%
It's been about 3 months since and I'm still about 12 lbs. over.
Haven't lost much strength gains. It's the recovery post-workout now that I notice the big difference.
At around the 12-16 week period of the cycle I did get really ripped, to the point where people at my work KNEW I was on something. The breakouts of huge pimples also didn't help my case.
But it's cool though. I'll never run primo again. I can't stand having the Himalayas on my face.
I've ran var and t-bol cycles only before the primo/var combo and I never broke out from those cycles.
I'll tell you though, if there is a "shutdown" or "crash" with primo, then it's either really late or I must be one of the very few that hasn't experienced it yet. I'm serious, since my last injection, my military press and curls have actually INCREASED in weight. Bench went down a bit but not much.
In all honesty, and I'll probably get burnt for this, but I ONLY used 2 weeks of nolva for PCT. That's it.
I've had my bloodwork done and doc said everything is normal.
So yeah, the ONLY really bad aspect of primo in my case is the ACNE breakouts that made me a laughingstock in the workplace.
Unfortunately, I'm not willing to go through that again. They've subsided a bit but my skin is still not the same as it was before this particular cycle.
I'll burn you for it -- but not for the reason you think. Since var doesn't aromatize and primo is anti estrogenic you didn't need the nolva at all. If anything, it may have hindered recovery.
