Primo Dosing; UGL vs. Schering

[Captain FT]

Building my next cycle and was searching the forum on "Primo". Dosing advise for Primo seems to be all over the map and I even noticed a lot of people threw out doses not even knowing the height, age, weight, BF, training history, etc.

From my reading, it looks like:

UGL Primo - 500-600mg/wk
Schering Primo - 300 mg/wk

I'm making an assumption that the 500+ mg/wk recommendation is for UGL stuff since Schering Primo has been hard to come by, but none of the posts I've read said either Schering or UGL when I saw higher than normal dosages.

The posts I did read for Schering Primo pretty much said 300mg/wk is enough and given the choice between Schering and UGL, get the Schering, its well worth it.

So at 5'10' currently 220lbs (also ON right now so it changes weekly), ~13% BF, age 33, training since I was 16. This would be my second real educated cycle since being on EF. I did some stuff back in '95-'98 and the internet was just getting started. I say "real educated cycle" because it took me two years of reading and learning on EF about the ins and outs of steroids and I'm still learning every day.

I'm not looking for someone to layout the cycle, just interested on opinions of UGL Primo vs. Schering Primo hopefully from guys who have used both. I enjoyed reading Ross's post on "Therapies" and his training methodology, hopefully he'll chime in.

The main base of the second cycle right now looks like:

1-12 Test E 500mg/wk
1-12 Schering Primo 300mg/wk
1-12 either EQ or Mast (Undecided leaning towards EQ)

Appreciate any input and feedback from Primo users. Two things I'll throw out there for the people that will decide to post what I should take anyway. Not interested in GH, IGF, or Tren, open to other options in the "EQ or Mast" field

Thanks

 

[BodyByTren]

Ive run primo a few times both Schering and UGL(legit) and 400-600 with either,if you run under 400 there is a big difference in gains,IMO.

I am a big fan of EQ,run it for 14wks min and 400-600mgs, with the test/priom you will have some AWESOME results!!!

 

[Nelson Montana]

400 seems to be the sweet spot. Using less will grow muscle, but it will be subtle for sure.

400 primo and 400 test is all anybody needs to make amazing gains. Add some GEAR and the primo is even more potent. The 2 work very well together.

 

[OMEGA]

Nelson is right on that being a sweet cycle for most people

UG primo only know of 2 brands as good as shering, the rest fall short. ( Note I said as good)

 

[Captain FT]

So its not necessarily that UGL is under dosed, but guys taking 500-600mg or more maybe feel its justifiable because of the lower cost being UGL vs. Schering?

12 weeks of Schering Primo @ 400mg/week isn't too awful. If its as good as everyone says it should be worth it.

 

[OMEGA]

its good if its real and the test is

 

[Varga]

Done primo/eq/test all at 500mg each with decent results but I hated the oily skin...holy shit then came pimples. Very common with primo and the only product I get pimples from.I mean there werent a lot of pimples but I hate them with a passion..lol
With this being one of the first cycles you will like it. If you prone to pimples watch out and you will get oily skin regradless

 

[Captain FT]

Done primo/eq/test all at 500mg each with decent results but I hated the oily skin...holy shit then came pimples. Very common with primo and the only product I get pimples from.I mean there werent a lot of pimples but I hate them with a passion..lol
With this being one of the first cycles you will like it. If you prone to pimples watch out and you will get oily skin regradless

Good to know. I do two a days and shower at least twice. Skin is pimple free at my current 500mg Test E and 400 EQ. My skin doesn't usually get very oily, but thats not to say it won't.

Thanks bro. Did you do UGL or Schering Primo?

 

[Para_Shoot]

Whats the difference if an ug weighs out 1 gram of 98.5% pure methenelone enananthate and makes 10ml of 100mg/ml primo or if "Schering" weighs out 1 gram of 98.5% pure methenelone enanthate at their lab and makes 10ml of 100mg/ml primo? How do you logically come up with this standard of 500mg-600mg of an ug primo equals 400mg of "Schering" primo?

 

[Captain FT]

Whats the difference if an ug weighs out 1 gram of 98.5% pure methenelone enananthate and makes 10ml of 100mg/ml primo or if "Schering" weighs out 1 gram of 98.5% pure methenelone enanthate at their lab and makes 10ml of 100mg/ml primo? How do you logically come up with this standard of 500mg-600mg of an ug primo equals 400mg of "Schering" primo?

I didn't make that a standard and wondered the exact same thing as you. It was more an observation of several posts. No one really said you take more of UGL than you do of pharm grade. It was an observation of mine over several posts I searched. I also noted that several of the 500-600mg/wk didn't necessarily say either way if it was UGL or Pharm grade.

It was my observation that posts that did mention specifically taking Schering Primo the doses were typically on the lower end.

Based on what you're saying I am 100% with you. I guess with Pharm grade we know its good, with UGL we don't know the purity, we're taking their word for it. Unless you get the UGL tested no one would really know.