Post Work for shedding fat

[D00fy]

Since i lift in the morning on empty stomach and 10-15min cardio followed.... I am Not a fan of cardio but dieting is the key, i aint looking to see fast results but slow results 2-3months ,shed 10lbs

usually post workout was 40gram protein shake with 1banana

but i was thinking about making it 40gram protein shake and some kind of carb drink(CELLTECH) or gatorade with 5g creatine....


will this effect me losing fat? to lean out? and also after im done with my lifting and cardio i goto the lockers get dressed and than have my postwork (about a 10min wait) alot of people say 30-40mins wait but im in a hurry to get to class is this okay? cause 2hours later i have meal2

 

[diamonddiceclay]

after a workout when cutting-eat a high protein meal

 

[Stryc-9]

also after im done with my lifting and cardio i goto the lockers get dressed and than have my postwork (about a 10min wait) alot of people say 30-40mins wait but im in a hurry to get to class is this okay? cause 2hours later i have meal2

I always have my post-workout shake immediately after my workout - and I mean immediately - no waiting at all - not even five minutes!! So that won't hurt you in the least....

 

[D00fy]

high protein meal wont it make me more hungry waiting 2hrs to eat my next meal?

 

[skinnyfat]

I actually feel that protein is more satisfying than carbs, especially simple ones. As far as the carbs when cutting, I would say it depends on the type of diet you follow and whether or not you can fit in the post-workout carbs into your goal caloric intake.

 

[=w=]

Yes you should have some carbs + protein post workout and no you shouldnt wait (you should have your shake immediatley). When you lift you have broken your muscles down and your body is in a catabolic state, by waiting you are just prolonging the amount of time you are catabolic which is not good for your muscles. The reason you want carbs is due to the fact that if you do not include carbs your body will just oxidize the protein leaving nothing for your body to recover with. If just losing weight is your main goal then yes wait but if your goal is to lose fat while preserving as much lean mass as possible then do not wait. If you have high BF% then you can get away with no carbs (I have read it recomended w/ high bf it is a good idea to just consume a large amount of amino acids, glutamine: 20-40g and BCAAs: 10g)

 

[110%]

im currently 3 and a half weeks into my cutting, and i am consuming 50 g. whey, 75 g. dextrose postworkout and it hasnt hurt me at all, i think you need your simple carbs postworkout always to replenish your glycogen stores. i only eat two other carb meals in the day which are my first two meals, each containing 1 cup of brown rice. most of all though just make sure your calorie amounts are correct, about 500 less than 15 X your bodyweight. also i would reccoment you to just buy some creatine monohydrate and some dextrose, much much cheaper than cel tech. check www.supplementdirect.com for dextrose, like 20 bucks including shipping for around 75 servings of 75 grams dextrose, also i got prolab creatine monohydrate, 50 bucks for 1000 grams. much better than cell tech prices.

 

[=w=]

Another thing I thought of after re-reading your post is you specifically state you want to lose 10lbs. When people focus to much on pounds lost it becomes a problem because you are more likely to undershoot your calories by worrying if your weight is not dropping fast enough. Either focus on caliper measurements or the mirror (after all that is why you are doing it anyway). It isnt like you are going to walk around the beach with a sign with you weight on it and point and say "hey baby you see I'm only weighing XXXlbs." and think she is gonna be hot for you. You are gonna walk down the beach with a buff as hell body and if all goes well they will come up to you regardless of what you happen to weigh. I may have been rambling but I hope you understand - Focus on how you are looking rather then how much you are weighing. Weight isn't even a good measure simply because of how much of a fluctuation is possible. I am dieting right now too and hardly ever weigh myself (maybe 1-2 times per week and mainly just to ensure I am not losing too fast at the expense of muscle loss) but I'm looking in the mirror every morning to see how I am altering how I look.

 

[D00fy]

i go by mirror ,if i see it looks good i continue with the method also i notice when looking in the mirror u see nice cut ups and u can see your abs but when your looking down on your stomach you can barely see it,when mirror reflection is that the same thing that people at you as seeing yourself in the mirror?

i weigh myself once a week ,every end of friday

 

[riskybizz007]

=w= is right... you do need carbs in there w/ your protein shake. If you're worried just drink 50g dextrose w/ 50g whey. If not you will use the whey as fuel instead of the dextrose.

 

[D00fy]

dextrose can only be purchased online?

 

[Stryc-9]

You can try honey instead of dextrose - I've found that it gives me the same results over extended periods...

 

[D00fy]

cool thx

 

[rez]

no way!!!!!

honey is terrible (from what ive learned and read...pure fructose - fruit sugar). This means it will replenish ure liver stores instead of muscle. Thats why so many ppl are against fruit post workout.
i tried something different yesterday and today, which was to add 100g recovery drink (9g carbs, 8g of which are sugars) and teaspoon of muscle gain powder (aminoacids-protein) to my water...I had that immediately after training. I trained chest and tris then 20mins cardio.
30mins after that i had my protein shake with oats; p=48g cho=21g.

I was also wondering why you arent eating PREworkout? I would recommend you do. I never did until a few months ago..and seriously its the best thing ever. I train at 630am and have a protein shake with low oats at 515am. You should try it...your strength will definetly improve.

My next two meals will contain carbs - thats it for the day...

Since eating this way I have more energy and strength. What do you think?

 

[D00fy]

yah its hard to eat prework cause theres a certain time to get on the train to get to the city than i hit the gym and run to class

so i should lose the banana uh:/ i need dextrose or something hehe or i whould try the honey for a while

 

[rez]

preworkout meal is hard..but do it its worth it. more strength=more muscle=less fat.

no honey no banana..thats my advice. gluclose or low gi carb ie oats. try both ways..see what works best for u. every1 is different.

and if ure gona do cardio after w/out make it worthwhile and up it to 20mins.

 

[D00fy]

maybe whole wheat bread? since its early in the day i can burn it off

 

[110%]

doofy about the honey, i did that for a while, it is still a good postworkout carb, a lower gi than dextrose thoguh. the only problem i found about it though was that like 2 tbsp is only around 40 carbs, and that already is so hard to eat 2 tbsp. the stuff gets sick after a while. dextrose is much easier to get down just throw it in with the shake.

 

[D00fy]

damnit i wish stores whould sell them i dont have a CC# to order online

 

[rez]

bread is a waste of time.
dont eat it...especially if your cutting.

 

[D00fy]

im not looking to get all cut up and everything loose some fat on the stomach/obliques and tone up a lil

ima stick with the banana in the morning see how that progress's after if i see things aint rite il modify it try looking at dextrose and finding a place to buy it around NYC

 

[Stryc-9]

Re: no way!!!!!

honey is terrible (from what ive learned and read...pure fructose - fruit sugar).

Honey is only around 30% fructose...

Pure dextrose may have a higher GI rating than pure honey when the two are consumed ALONE - but when they are combined and consumed with other foods (i.e., protein) the insulin response is relatively similar (or at least, so small as to not make any significant difference with respect to blood sugar levels).

This is generally the problem with the GI index to begin with ---> namely that foods are considered independently of each other - as though we went around eating individual foods one at a time - rather than combining them in our meals.

 

[D00fy]

what you think of grape juice or grapefruit juice? when leaning?

 

[Stryc-9]

Well - that might be pushing it - because grape fruit juice IS pure fructose (I think)....

....but I'm actually beginning to think that any simple sugar combined with protein will suffice for a post-workout meal....

I just can't see the resultant insulin spike being THAT much different among dextrose, glucose, fructose, etc., (when they are combined with protein).....

I'm not going to use the old "sugar is sugar" line - but all monosaccharides have the same chemical formula (C6 H12 O6) - it is merely the arrangement of the atoms that give them different physical properties (i.e., glucose tends to crystallize whereas fructose is often syrupy...)

At the very least we can all agree that eating a post-workout meal with SOME form of simple carbs combined with protein is better than nothing at all!!!

 

[D00fy]

ehh thx can u reply to the other post?