Possible that nolva caused the bload?

[Thom]

Hi
I'm currently not using anything except cabaser. Five days ago I started using 5mg nolva ed, just to see how I react. No change in diet, cardio, trainging etc. Now I'm even more bloated, with moonface and all! Wtf?!
Isn't nolva supposed to help me loose the water??
Any ideas? I'm on a low carb, moderat fat, high protein diet, and I'm sure I weren't this bloated before I started nolva...

Thom

 

[wnt2bBeast]

maybe its not real nolva??? if it were real you would probably see little change, perhaps a slight drying from reduced estro production..what is cabaser?

 

[Thom]

I'm pretty sure it's real nolva. It came in blisters and all... Used the same brand before when I was on a cycle, and the itching in my nipples disapeared.
Cabaser is the same as dostinex. Antiprogresterone and dopamin agonist (sp?).

 

[wnt2bBeast]

I'm pretty sure it's real nolva. It came in blisters and all... Used the same brand before when I was on a cycle, and the itching in my nipples disapeared.
Cabaser is the same as dostinex. Antiprogresterone and dopamin agonist (sp?).

ok i gotcha..so youre taking an anti-e along with an anti-progesterone..are you trying to get rid of gyno? i really cant explain how nolva would bloat you..stop taking it and see what happens?

 

[Thom]

Stopped taking it two days ago, so we'll see. Still bloated
Not trying to get rid of gyno, I just had high levels of progresterone (which caused acne. Cabaser got rid of it). I started nolva to dry me up a little, and to see if it helped loosing fat in estrogenrich fat depots.

 

[jeb0177]

upper the dose at 20 mg a day and see what happens, I usually take 20mg a day starting like on the 4th week of my cycles because that's when I usually start feeling my nips hurt at 750mg of test en. good luck!

 

[Thom]

another thing... do you notice huge marks around your ankles after socks when you bloat alot? That's what I'm experiencing right now
And.. the nolva made me dead tired. I usualy can't sleep more than 6 hours, but I slept like 12 hours no prob, and still I was tired... normal?

It may be placebo, but I actually felt my nipples itch a little the past few days. Not anymore though, and I've been off it two days..... This freaks me out. I've heard that nolva acts like estrogen in high doses... any thougths??

 

[eviction]

Hi
I'm currently not using anything except cabaser. Five days ago I started using 5mg nolva ed, just to see how I react. No change in diet, cardio, trainging etc. Now I'm even more bloated, with moonface and all! Wtf?!
Isn't nolva supposed to help me loose the water??
Any ideas? I'm on a low carb, moderat fat, high protein diet, and I'm sure I weren't this bloated before I started nolva...

Thom

up your dosage to either 20 or 40mg e.d.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

another thing... do you notice huge marks around your ankles after socks when you bloat alot? That's what I'm experiencing right now
And.. the nolva made me dead tired. I usualy can't sleep more than 6 hours, but I slept like 12 hours no prob, and still I was tired... normal?

It may be placebo, but I actually felt my nipples itch a little the past few days. Not anymore though, and I've been off it two days..... This freaks me out. I've heard that nolva acts like estrogen in high doses... any thougths??

all the more reason why i think your nolva isnt nolva??

 

[Thom]

all the more reason why i think your nolva isnt nolva??

yea... geez
too bad I popped them all out of the blister and threw it away

and I will certanly NOT up the dosage

 

[Thom]

bump.
more thoughts?

 

[BD100]

Nolva is a weak estrogen. It is better used to prevent gyno, in fact I'm not sure nolva will do anything to help stop bloating. If you want to stop the bloat, use an anti-e like arimidex or femara.

 

[string_bean00]

Nolva is a weak estrogen. It is better used to prevent gyno, in fact I'm not sure nolva will do anything to help stop bloating. If you want to stop the bloat, use an anti-e like arimidex or femara.

Yes. Nolva will do little or nothing to stop bloating.

 

[Thom]

the bloating seemed to disappear when I went of nolva. took a few days though.
And just for curiosity I took 0,25mg arimidex last afternoon. Rememeber I said that nolva made me tired and made me sleep for a long time. Well my gf just woke me up after 13 hours and asked me if I was sick, cause I never sleep that long. Anyone have any ideas the cause?
I'm on cabaser, which keeps progresterone low. When I use cabaser or bromocriptine, I sleep max 4-6 hours. When I don't use anything I can get 8 hours no problem. Some say low progresterone levels = higer estrogen levels. Maybe high estrogen levels causes me to not be able to sleep more than max 6 hours?

 

[Thom]

bump

 

[Triple J]

what's your cycle?

oh, and cabaser helps with the prolactin sides, this is not the same as progestin sides ....

 

[Thom]

as I'm saying I'm not on a cycle.

 

[junk]

As far as my experience, nolva wouldn't combat water retension much if at all. Femara or Aromasin on the other hand will get rid of it fast.