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Pledge of Allegiance Declared Unconstitutional

cockdezl said:
It will be upheld as unconstitutional, and rightly so. You must remember that public education is GOVERNMENT education, these are government schools. Therefore, they cannot endorse any religion, nor force one to support any group (the US) that one does not choose.

This is why people need to pull their children from gub'ment schools and put them in private education suited to your needs. Parents have handed the raising of their children to the State, and they need to realize that the State's wishes do not always correlate to the parents' wishes.

Push for school vouchers people.

Shut up, you just showed us why you named your self cockdezl. People cant be forced to say it, but they should do it. If i am somewhere and i see some bastard not standing i will rip his ass up and grab his lips and force them to say "in god we trust" That is bullshit that they outlawed it. Government schools are fine, the government sucks, but the schools are fine. Catholic private schools are even better.
 
I agree.. You can't FORCE anyone to recite the pledge, But for Christ sake if the teacher wants to recite, and have patriotic students follow suit then they should be able to do it.
 
Why is it patriotic to say In God We trust?

Because the majority of American's belive in God? What if the majority believed in in giant man eating penguins?

If it offends a minority of people, we should try to fix it--I think. Personally, I think it's a joke.. I mean, minorities are fucked over daily, there are bigger problems than this, but I still agree with it...

If it really bothers you so much not to say In God We Trust... wait until you get home, save up all that energy... and then say it over and over. That'll be fun for you.
 
Needhelp said:
If it offends a minority of people, we should try to fix it--I think. Personally, I think it's a joke.. I mean, minorities are fucked over daily, there are bigger problems than this, but I still agree with it...

maybe you are unaware of how a democracy works, but i'll let you in on a little secret...the majority is what matters when passing something, not the minority. oh yeah, and another thing, just because a group of people are the minority when supporting or voting for something, it does not mean they are the racial minority, so i have no fucking clue what you meant by 'minorities being fucked over daily'
 
minorities are fucked over daily???? What, I couldn't get student loans because I was white. I was dropped ouside the hiring range for the fire department because the city had to fill quotas. The world bends over backwards for minorities, like my man MP3 said "when you are white and stand up for your race it is called hate, stand up for your race when you aren't white and it is called pride"
 
L.A.X said:
minorities are fucked over daily???? What, I couldn't get student loans because I was white. I was dropped ouside the hiring range for the fire department because the city had to fill quotas. The world bends over backwards for minorities, like my man MP3 said "when you are white and stand up for your race it is called hate, stand up for your race when you aren't white and it is called pride"

You're ignorant?

I'm not calling you racist.. but most minorities have it much worse than you..
 
How do they have it worse than me? Anyone with drive and focus can accomplish anything in this country! I have a black friend who was raised on welfare, busted his ass through college and is now making lots of money as an I-banker. He didn't use his race as an excuse. How did he prevail in such an "anti-Minority" culture.

I hate it when people turn to society for their lack of drive!
 
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