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Pledge of Allegiance Declared Unconstitutional

p0ink said:


maybe you are unaware of how a democracy works, but i'll let you in on a little secret...the majority is what matters when passing something, not the minority. oh yeah, and another thing, just because a group of people are the minority when supporting or voting for something, it does not mean they are the racial minority, so i have no fucking clue what you meant by 'minorities being fucked over daily'

Quite wrong. We don't rule by a strict majority. Otherwise everything would be submitted to referendum. The Constitution recognizes the tyranny of majorities and protects minorities.

The god business wasn't even in the original Pledge. It was added in the god-fearing, Commie-hating '50s. The Pledge will do just as well returned to its pre-Eisenhower rewrite. IN any case, the Supreme Court ruled in 1943, before the god phrase was added and the year after it was officially adopted by Congress, that W. Va. students couldn't be compelled to recite it even without the god line.

By the way, the original Pledge read this way: "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands; one nation indivisible, with liberty and Justice for all." It was written in 1892 to reflect a utopic socialist viewpoint by Francis Bellamy, a socialist editor and minister.

Y'all might want to remember that. Every time you recite the Pledge, you're keeping a live the utopic dream of an American socialist. :D
 
I would think Christians would be a little mad anyway.. I mean, to be considered patriotic, you must recite this.. and being patriotic is so damn cool now..

But as a christian, plending allegiance to a flag could be considered idolotry, right? Isn't that the 2nd Commandment?

I know christians take pride in being hyprocrits, but come on....
 
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Needhelp said:
I would think Christians would be a little mad anyway.. I mean, to be considered patriotic, you must recite this.. and being patriotic is so damn cool now..

But as a christian, plending allegiance to a flag could be considered idolotry, right? Isn't that the 2nd Commandment?

I know christians take pride in being hyprocrits, but come on....

You seem to forget that Christians aren't the only ones who believe in God....:rolleyes:
 
Needhelp said:
I would think Christians would be a little mad anyway.. I mean, to be considered patriotic, you must recite this.. and being patriotic is so damn cool now..

But as a christian, plending allegiance to a flag could be considered idolotry, right? Isn't that the 2nd Commandment?

I know christians take pride in being hyprocrits, but come on....

i'm christian yet i don't see it as a violation of the 2nd commandment. i only mentioned it as it was asked of me by an atheist friend of mine. i thought i might provoke some thought and conversation. one could argue it though but the flag is not a graven image of anything from heaven.

back to the issue at hand, just give people the option. that's all. i know, pretty simplistic but sometimes complex problems have simple answers. :)
 
p0ink said:
Pledge Declared Unconstitutional

By David Kravets
Associated Press Writer
Wednesday, June 26, 2002; 2:22 PM

SAN FRANCISCO –– A federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that the Pledge of Allegiance is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion and cannot be recited in schools.

© 2002 The Associated Press


you fucking leftist, communist, liberals make me want to fucking puke.
:mad: :mad: :mad:

Some people have too much time on their hands to keep bringing shit like this up in the courts. Get a life people and don't sweat the small stuff in this nation. Boy, freedom was really getting slaughtered by saying the pledge of allegiance or The Lord's Prayer in school (which we did every day in sixth grade when I was in school because the teacher wanted to). Me thinks it's the other way around now. The folks with too much time on their hands are slaughtering freedoms...

sit & :spin: bitch
 
Municipal Monkfish said:
Good. Im glad it was declared unconstitutional. They should be teaching little black kids how NOT to grow up to be felonious buttfucks, instead of making them recite the pledge. Become a good citizen first, patriotiism comes AFTER.

Keep up this kind of commentary and you know where you're headed....again.
 
This is a very simple issue: the United States Constitution. Government and religion, together, are prohibited by this famous document. The judges decision in this case only adheres to that bedrock principle.
 
It must be so tramatizing for a non christian child to sit there in class while his fellow students recite a pledge to their country. I can only imagine the horror it causes. truley terrible.
 
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