please help, severe acne , low libido, no erections 3 months post cycle

[newguy555]

Hey

First my stats: 6"0 210lbs, age 24

Cycle experience:
Test 600mg dbol 40mg 10 weeks, clomid/nolva

Same thing again for 12 weeks

Had no issue recovering with both these cycles.recovery was quick

Now come june 2013. I decide to do prop+deca at 100mg of each every other day.I wanted results in time for summer so thats why I used these compounds. Everything was great, libido through the roof, gaining muscle no acne.

About week 7 I decide to switch the prop for test e because it was getting expensive. I continued prop for one more week while shooting test e. I kept npp dose the same but I was pinning about 750mg of test e a week. Still had no issues

When it was time for pct, all hell broke loose. 2 weeks after last pin, my libido went to basically nothing and I started developing acne. I did clomid/nolva pct (probably not good) and I realized after a week my clomid was expired, and I stoppes pct altogether. I was hoping my body would go back to normal on its own. Here I am today with acne all over , even a bit on my face and still no libido. I can get it up if im with a girl but I have no urge to go see women or masterbate.

5 days ago I decided to run a proper pct so I started clomid/nolva again but now im thinking about stopping it and just riding this out.

Bloods will be done soon

Would like to add that my strength is great. Im still hauling 120lb dumbells for incline press and still have the motivation/energy

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks

 

[EZ_E]

You were running a shit load of juice, deca shuts you down hard, and minimal PCT.

Get that blood test done ASAP

 

[newguy555]

Do I drop clomid nolva

 

[buddhabuilder]

Newguy,

This is a don't let this happen to you thread. There is no sign that you had any idea what you were doing from the get go. No sign of on cycle supps, nothing. Yes, bloods immediately, and a basic PCT would be;

1-4 Clomid 50/25/25/25
1-4 HCGenerate
1-4 DAA Powder
1-4 Another Test Booster. Try to see if you can get a natty stack from one of the advertisers here.

I don't know if you should do 4 weeks of HCG now. I'm sure other guys will be checking in.

No one should ever do a cycle with out a thorough understanding of gear and effective PCT.

 

[newguy555]

I understand I messed up a lot of things and that only bloods can tell for sure but is it worth finishing this second pct or should I just stop

 

[Reps For Jesus]

You're young enough that your body should bounce back just fine, but the time in between now and recovered is going to suck. You have nandralone lingering in your system which is making things suck worse. PCT will help bridge the gap, and if you choose the right supps, they will help with your mood, libido, and maybe even acne while you are recovering.

Bloods are the most important part.. get those done asap.

 

[newguy555]

You're young enough that your body should bounce back just fine, but the time in between now and recovered is going to suck. You have nandralone lingering in your system which is making things suck worse. PCT will help bridge the gap, and if you choose the right supps, they will help with your mood, libido, and maybe even acne while you are recovering.

Bloods are the most important part.. get those done asap.

Thanks for the hope.

I will finish a month of clomid and nolva at
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

 

[Reps For Jesus]

That's a good plan, but those things are going to do nothing for your Libido issues.. they will actually make them worse. I would pick up some Unleashed and D-AA. Those will help tremendously. Run the Unleashed at 6 caps a day and the D-AA at 3g's. And run until you feel better. You can get these things at mrsupps.com or needtobuildmuscle.com.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Hey

First my stats: 6"0 210lbs, age 24

Cycle experience:
Test 600mg dbol 40mg 10 weeks, clomid/nolva

Same thing again for 12 weeks

Had no issue recovering with both these cycles.recovery was quick

Now come june 2013. I decide to do prop+deca at 100mg of each every other day.I wanted results in time for summer so thats why I used these compounds. Everything was great, libido through the roof, gaining muscle no acne.

About week 7 I decide to switch the prop for test e because it was getting expensive. I continued prop for one more week while shooting test e. I kept npp dose the same but I was pinning about 750mg of test e a week. Still had no issues

When it was time for pct, all hell broke loose. 2 weeks after last pin, my libido went to basically nothing and I started developing acne. I did clomid/nolva pct (probably not good) and I realized after a week my clomid was expired, and I stoppes pct altogether. I was hoping my body would go back to normal on its own. Here I am today with acne all over , even a bit on my face and still no libido. I can get it up if im with a girl but I have no urge to go see women or masterbate.

5 days ago I decided to run a proper pct so I started clomid/nolva again but now im thinking about stopping it and just riding this out.

Bloods will be done soon

Would like to add that my strength is great. Im still hauling 120lb dumbells for incline press and still have the motivation/energy

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks

This is typical, where guys aren't sure what to do and end up dropping their PCT mid-way. One of the worst things you can do to your HPT axis is a yo-yo stimulus with neither here nor there. Think of it as a yo-yo diet, that's why those obese guys stay obese, you follow me?

Your PCT has to be extensive and well planned out, a buddy of mine on the forums here, did a 13 week PCT, take a look (example):
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/pct-after-13-months-here-we-go-1212623.html

You will need to go through a prolonged PCT to get back on the horse. I suggest an 8 week PCT.


PCT: 8 weeks
week 1-4
kick start (4 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM

week 1-8--following:
Clomid 100/100/50/50/25/25/25
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/10/10/10/5
Aromasin week 1-2: 12.5mgs EOD, week 3-4: 7.5mgs EOD, week 5-6: 4.25 mgs/eod
Ostarine (MK-2866) - 25/25/25/25/25
Cardarine (GW-501516) - 20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

 

[Shrine1]

This is typical, where guys aren't sure what to do and end up dropping their PCT mid-way. One of the worst things you can do to your HPT axis is a yo-yo stimulus with neither here nor there. Think of it as a yo-yo diet, that's why those obese guys stay obese, you follow me?

Your PCT has to be extensive and well planned out, a buddy of mine on the forums here, did a 13 week PCT, take a look (example):
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/pct-after-13-months-here-we-go-1212623.html

You will need to go through a prolonged PCT to get back on the horse. I suggest an 8 week PCT.


PCT: 8 weeks
week 1-4
kick start (4 weeks): HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM

week 1-8--following:
Clomid 100/100/50/50/25/25/25
Nolvadex - 40/20/20/20/10/10/10/5
Aromasin week 1-2: 12.5mgs EOD, week 3-4: 7.5mgs EOD, week 5-6: 4.25 mgs/eod
Ostarine (MK-2866) - 25/25/25/25/25
Cardarine (GW-501516) - 20/20/20/20/20/20/20/20
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM

I would definitely take this approach.

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[stevesmi]

I bet you never recovered from your first 2 cycles. you ran pct short and you still had the esters in your system which to you made you think you recovered when you hadn't even come off... then you jumped back on again.

so essentially you just stayed on that whole year. you need to come off time on= time off.

I would give yourself a good 6-9 months to recover and you will need a better pct than just SERM's and 4 weeks won't do a thing for you anyway.

I don't even need to see your bloods because I already know what they will show but post them for shits and giggles.. I have enough experience in this field to know exactly what you did wrong here. simply put you basically never came off and those weren't 3 cycles you ran, that was just staying on the whole time so now your HPTA needs months to recover. if you do not allow it to recover its going to be like a car running on gasoline fumes, its gonna be a struggle. so let it recover fully. let the gas tank go to full and then hop back on. and stop complaining about your libido, the more you bitch about it the worse it will be.. you are only 24 which is still a baby and you decided to run 3 cycles back to back to back including deca so you knew what you were getting into risking your libido for some muscle. either live with the fact that your libido will never be like it was at 20 again or you can stress over it.

 

[newguy555]

I did those cycles over 2 years ...

Getting wood in the middle of the night , I woke up twice to beat the meat

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ okay my point is it will take deca a solid 6-9 months to recover from.. some guys take a year

you don't just run a 4 week pct with some nolva and clomid and declare yourself recovered because they manipulate your bloodwork .. once you come off of them your LH and T levels will crater

these types of threads we see on here on a daily basis and I say the same thing over and over and over and over to people but they still don't get it. not saying you are like that but hopefully some newbs read what I wrote and understand what I am saying if you get my drift

 

[Aplopez8]

For acne start mega dosing vitamin b5 start at 2 grams a day for the first week see and adjust from there
For libido use some tribulus with some avena santiva
Just wait it out and go the all natural route especially if ur cycles was two years ago no sense in putting more shit in ur body like clomid and nolva

 

[buddhabuilder]

And drop the novla...

 

[newguy555]

For acne start mega dosing vitamin b5 start at 2 grams a day for the first week see and adjust from there
For libido use some tribulus with some avena santiva
Just wait it out and go the all natural route especially if ur cycles was two years ago no sense in putting more shit in ur body like clomid and nolva

I meant I have done these cycles over 2 yesrs. My last cycle where I added deca, finished 3 months ago. I decided to drop tbe nolva clomid because I dont wanna keep putting products in my system. Will start the b5 as ive heard good things about it

 

[stevesmi]

I meant I have done these cycles over 2 yesrs. My last cycle where I added deca, finished 3 months ago. I decided to drop tbe nolva clomid because I dont wanna keep putting products in my system. Will start the b5 as ive heard good things about it

I highly recommend T stack Rx. its what I have all my clients run after cycle.. it will boost your libido and boost your aggression so you will still be motivated to work out at the gym. run 1-3 caps per day depending on how much you can afford. for T stack RX use this link>>>> http://w3.teststackrx.com/109.html and use the coupon codes
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[Nelson Montana]

nolvadex isn't proper PCT. It's dick killing bullshit. If estro is the problem use aromasin. But get some UNLEASHED and Protein Factory POST-CYCLE if you want to start feeling better soon.

 

[hurricane]

nolvadex isn't proper PCT. It's dick killing bullshit. If estro is the problem use aromasin. But get some UNLEASHED and Protein Factory POST-CYCLE if you want to start feeling better soon.

do this and add some hcgenerate es to.i would go balls out to get my sex drive back, if it were missing for 3 months, i wouldnt worry about blowing a few extra bucks.

pretty sure you can get all 3 at needtobuildmuscle... postcycle,unleashed and hcgenerate es.