pics before bulk phase

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why did you drop the test....you look like you can handle it.....hell i'd have went to a gram personally!!! but thats just me

guys you will be competing against....the winners anyway i guarantee you ran more than 500mg in their bulking cycles

yea u dont think the first stack i posted is a lil much with the test at 750 a d deca at 600?

im just hearin a lot of different tips on the ancilliary side of things like if just the hcg is gonna be enough for the 14 weeks of deca, then if nolva n clomid is enough for after this huge cycle

what u think

 

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see ive heard too many people tell me hcg is def necessary during deca phase, ur the only one who has told me i dont need it durring

 

[Bruce]

u NEED hcg

 

[nomad05]

use HCG & keep the Test at 750mg/week.

 

[drrman]

see ive heard too many people tell me hcg is def necessary during deca phase, ur the only one who has told me i dont need it durring

i will stand by my comment, the HCG is ONLY good for cosmetic reasons...i.e. making your nuts look bigger, it will NOT keep your body from shutting down when on the deca and test, so i say its a waste of money to run it during the cycle, i mean you are already shut down, the HCG isn't going to make you "not" shut down until you quit taking the steroids......and no, i don't think 750mg test is too high....looking at your physique and knowing what your goals are bro, you can handle 750mg.........at the national level 750mg isn't even considered a "lot" of test

 

[mrdeeznuts]

i agree with utler and drrman on the hcg issue

use it only at the end of the cycle

 

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aight drman thanks man im gonna use ur info then, i just got my lab supplies in so im gonna be doin a lot of cookin this weekend

well thank you guys for all ur help ill keep u guys posted on how the cycles goin and after pics im weighin bout 193 195 so im lookin to get up to 220 230 during this cycle so hopefully well get some good results

 

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this kids tryin to tell me to take nolva durin my deca phase which i think is a lil obsured but all i should use for pct is dostinex hcg and aromasin?correct or throw clomid in the mix cause im plannin on startin next week so i gotta order some ancilliaries still


"It is really good to run nolvadex during cycle. It keeps the gyno away while on. 10mg/day should do the job. Nolva doesn't stop the effects of progesterone related gyno that can result from Deca. Cabergoline and B6 are used for that--usually not a problem so dont worry about it.

Use HCG 500iu E4D for the last six weeks of the cycle. Stop 48 hrs before you begin PCT. HCG will actually suppress the HTPA at the Hypothalumus and Pituitary axes, which is why you should stop before starting clomid and nolva."

 

[drrman]

this kids tryin to tell me to take nolva durin my deca phase which i think is a lil obsured but all i should use for pct is dostinex hcg and aromasin?correct or throw clomid in the mix cause im plannin on startin next week so i gotta order some ancilliaries still


"It is really good to run nolvadex during cycle. It keeps the gyno away while on. 10mg/day should do the job. Nolva doesn't stop the effects of progesterone related gyno that can result from Deca. Cabergoline and B6 are used for that--usually not a problem so dont worry about it.

Use HCG 500iu E4D for the last six weeks of the cycle. Stop 48 hrs before you begin PCT. HCG will actually suppress the HTPA at the Hypothalumus and Pituitary axes, which is why you should stop before starting clomid and nolva."

nolvadex can actually make the sides from deca even worse.....tell your friend he's a moron....nolva and deca is a no no

 

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nolvadex can actually make the sides from deca even worse.....tell your friend he's a moron....nolva and deca is a no no

k thanks drman

so im gonna stick with my original stack

pct: hcg
dostinex
aromasin
nolva


is that a good pct for this cycle ? clomid?