Partial Birth Abortion Ban Passes

[Sinistar]

Babydoc Said:

Now here's where and why my "experience" comes in. I know your assumptions to be absolutely incorrect. Fact is, they scrape up the money they need to have the abortion just like they get the money to buy cigarettes or crack or meth. They do it because it's cheaper than having the child. Do you happen to know that 1 out of every 2 women has had an abortion? So much for your "moral majority" which, of course, is neither.

now that your back, please show me where you get your facts. and no, i wont take your word for it.

as i understand it, most states have laws saying such info cant be given out. so i think your are lieing. and to clarify i mean a study that involves different ppl getting abortions, thereby making your claim of 1 out of 2 factually correct.

sorry to hurt your case, but i dont care for jerry falwell and pat robertson ect much more than you. thats a little before my time, and not my style. call me old fashioned, but i have a moral compass. its not a bad thing.

 

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quote:Originally posted by chesty
Again, you have no basis talking legality with me. It is the taking of a life that is unwanted. You want to call it a fetus or a non-human life form to appease your conscience and fill your wallet, then by all means.

If a woman was one day pregnant and the scenario I put up occured he would still be tried for murder. You rant and rave about people not having the intellect to talk about abortion I don't think you have half of the intellect that most have on this board.

Death is death, it is living tissue, a living organism a living human being. By twelve weeks the baby is fully formed, functional and just growing stronger everyday.

You on the other hand would have us believe that it is nothing more than a collection of cells that is an inconvenience to some woman or couple.

You know what? An abortionist is nothing more than a nazi. A murdering pig for hire. And no amount of you or anyone else posturing themselves as being the only ones educated to talk about the subject because you are the only ones who know the subject is pathetic.

Your for it great. I am against it. I will always do whatever I can within the law to stop it.

And it is these people that I am ashamed to defend as a Marine, but unlike them I don't run from my responsibilities and duty, I stand up to be counted and accounted for.


Wow they programmed you well didn't they. Stupid robot/sheep/tool/drone/christian

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this is like a nra member and a brady campaigner trading items from the latest newsletter. if one is full of shit the other is too.

oh, and what a nice attack on someone of faith. im sure youre destroying worlds right now.

 

[KAYNE]

And pOink, no one said it was a human life when the woman chooses to be; it is the ability to eventually become a human life that counts in this argument.

SORT OF LIKE HOW ALL THOSE HIGH TECH STOCKS KEPT GOING UP AND UP EVEN THOUGH THE FIRMS WERENT MAKING A DIME AND SOME WERE EVEN LOSING MONEY. EVERYONE WAS GOING OFF OF EXPECTED FUTURE EARNINGS!!!

NOW I CAN RELATE TO THIS ARGUMENT. WE'RE GETTING INTO THE FINANCE ASPECT OF IT. THIS IS GREAT!!!



KAYNE (PS...THIS POST IS DEFINITELY SARCASTIC)

 

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quote:Originally posted by p0ink


oh, i see how it is. it is the 'woman's baby' and the 'woman's choice' when it comes to an abortion, but when the bills start coming in, it becomes the man's problem as well.

just ring the bell and take money.

thanks for clearing that up for me. I am torn by this response because I agree with you on this one, but this presents a bizarre connundrum. There is no right answer to this statement except to say you are right, in cases where the father does not want the child yet the mother does I guess you should be able to relinquish parental rights and not be held liable. Just because the man's the sperm donor doesn't make him responsible for the rest of his life.

But why would you be arguing this point? You are against abortion and believe that it's ok to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body. Amazing how pro-life will take whatever side suits them. Sort of like killing or advocating the kiling of abortion providers, hmmmmm taking an established, undeniable human life to save an unconfirmed, debatable life- an interesting concept to say the least. Shows where the true hippocracy lies.

And pOink, no one said it was a human life when the woman chooses to be; it is the ability to eventually become a human life that counts in this argument. Once again, twisting the facts ever so slightly to suit your argument. But it won't work with me.

Last edited by thebabydoc on 14-Mar-2003 at 04:47 AM

 

[thebabydoc]

To all those who say partial birth abortion is not the same as abortion, your right. It is as close to torture and slaughter as one can get. It is the most despicable act one can perform.

agreed

I suggest to those who support this hellish ritual to go and watch it take place. I gaurantee that you'll toss your lunch in the waste bucket.

we got the point, buddy, relax, take a deep breath. Not one person here has remotely suggested it is acceptable. A 26 week fetus is viable, can survive outside the womb and can perform basic cognitive functions.

Doctor's who perform this are akin to Nazi's.

Once again, deep breath, relax...not Nazi's, but agreed, not good folk.

The pro abortion arguments are sickening at best and nightmarish in general.

Opinions, opinions, opinions...

When this country is looked upon by the future this infamous murdering of humans will stand out as our darkest moment.

LOL! The irony!!! Coming from a soldier, a Marine no less!!!!!!!

 

[Sinistar]

But why would you be arguing this point? You are against abortion and believe that it's ok to tell someone what they can and can't do with their body. Amazing how pro-life will take whatever side suits them. Sort of like killing or advocating the kiling of abortion providers, hmmmmm taking an established, undeniable human life to save an unconfirmed, debatable life- an interesting concept to say the least. Shows where the true hippocracy lies.

my last post was yours in its entirety. now the above is the part id like to focus on. in this post you have called ppl with a veiw similar to mine holier than thou, dominating in our treatment of our women, saying were too stupid to have a fucking opinion, and other things, and now the above. you are making some very wide statements here that do not help your arguement. can you get past your broad brush statements to some facts, like where you got the 1 out of 2 women have had an abortion? no one on here has said a fucking thing about bombing abortion centers and killing doctors. being a bit sensational arent we? truth is, the overwhelming majority of us want to change minds, and do not want the terrorism you are describing. i cant believe a grown ass college educated man can say shit like this. and you say were excitable.

 

[KAYNE]

DO YOU PEOPLE REALIZE YOU ARE ARGUING ABORTION WITH A MAN WHO DELIVERS BABIES FOR A LIVING!!!




KAYNE

 

[KAYNE]

IRONY IS EMANATING FROM THIS THREAD!!!




KAYNE

 

[thebabydoc]

For the little firefly that asked,

I AM A GYNECOLOGIST, SHITHEAD.

I take a complete obstetrical history on all my patients, I count the numbers. I perform abortions. I take those histories and count those numbers, too. My friends trust me with their gynecological histories. My employees over the past 10 years have trusted me as well. No matter the socioeconomic group- fellow gynecologists, doctors, blue-collar workers, meth heads, Hispanic Catholics, THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS: ONE OUT OF TWO. You can check Planned Parenthood or the National Abortion Federation, but I'm sure they'd be too biased for you.

As for educational levels, learn to spell and use grammar and punctuation correctly if you even pray to be taken seriously. (Sorry Chesty, that goes for you too).

 

[p0ink]

For the little firefly that asked,

I AM A GYNECOLOGIST, SHITHEAD.

this is rather off topic, but that's ok.

do sex change patient's vaginas feel/look the same as a real vagina?

in a book i've read, there is a brochure of different artificial vaginas for this transvestite to choose from. is that really how they do things?