TEXgrl said:
i don't believe women should use abortion as a means of birthcontrol, i never said that.
That is the typical response, but it denies the reality that abortion has become a means of birth control. To argue that we should disregard the fact that it is used as a means of birth control to protect the very few that are risks to life or non-consentual is insane. Abortion is valid as a means to protect one's life in the situation that the mother is at risk or when the infant is severely malformed.
lots of times there is more to it than simply opening up and saying "ahhh" rape, molestation, something wrong with the fetus, risk to the mother, a teen ill prepared to take care of a baby, a habitual drug user who is pregnant, i could go on, but you see my point. i think to bring a child into a world where it is not wanted is equally as bad.
That argument is not valid, since the infant becomes a free individual and then has claims to its own life. Why do we stop at birth? Why not be able to terminate infants post-partum, up to some arbitrary age? There is no magical process whereby air gives individuality to the infant, it was a living being the day before it's birth as it is the day after it's birth.
if you put the burden of protection on the woman alone when she is having sex, the decision should be hers alone. typical male response to place blame on a single person, then want to take away all their rights.
The woman does have the burden placed on her, she is the one who has the most responsibility, she cannot deny this. She has to be aware of her actions, since her consequences are greater than the male's. If you are the driver of a car, are you or your passenger responsible for any injuries you inflict on others?
are you telling me every time in life you have had sex you have given thought to protection, not just against pregnancy but against disease as well?
If you drink and drive are you not responsible for your actions? Even if you did not consider the consequences.
to make abortions illegal will not stop them from going on.
Laws against actions have never made these actions disappear, it simply defines the rules of society and protection of individual rights and defines the punishments for infringing on these rights.
to try to explain how a woman feels when faced with an unexpected pregnancy to a man is simply not possible. i'm not flaming anyone here, i'm merely stating my view of the matter, just like all you guys here. the only exception is, i've been there, as a woman, and you never will be there.
Emotion is not a valid argument. Whites did not "feel" that blacks were equal, and therefore disregarded their civil liberties, allowing for the sale, purchase and execution of human beings.
Women need to wake up and take responsibility of their actions. They have the onus placed on them by nature, which one cannot deny. With the access of birth control, there should be very few abortions performed today, but we see a total disregard for personal responsibility and a purely animalistic concept of sexual nature.
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its easy to take a stand against something when you will never be in the postion to make the choice.
