Over 60 and ready to get big

[adatudz]

You guys rock.....I thought I would not be welcomed here since I am old and a new bodybuilder, Kind of had the feeling I would be ignored, but I appreciate your help. If only I could find a kick ass trainer in Baltimore, I think I could make real good progress, as the trainer at the gym looks a little chubby to me....not someone I want to emulate. If anybody knows a good Baltmore trainer who would take on an old fuck like me, send them my way....
I guess I will not take any roids. I must admit I am a bit disappointeed, but maybe I will work harder without the assistance. But I admit the bb men I admire are like you guys, who know how to do the juice with good affects.

 

[RADAR]

Ok, before you tear me a new a hole.....
Let me explain. i have been hanging around gyms for 25 years with little success except some good results 10 years ago with Body for Life.

Now, my doc, due to low testosterone with side effects ( lethargy, anxiety, and yes hot flashes ) put me on Androgel, a Testosterone replacement, I take the max and my T levels ( i am 61) are 800 which is satisfactory.

Ever since I have been on the replacement I have a newfound love for the iron.

I weigh 180 lbs, 5ft 11, body fat is 24 ( yuk) and I eat 40% protein, 40 % carbs and 10% fat,.

I am on no meds except a cholestol---now 148.

I was told that Clenbuterol and Winstrol would assist, and not interfere with T replacement.

OK, maybe I am being a fool for wanting to take roids, and I am sure you folks will tell me that.

What would be recommended for a guy like me who is devoted now in the last 90 days to bb and want significant body changes....Would steroids be an option. I respect you folks a lot and would value hearing from you!!!!

Love to have your feedback on this.

Welcome to Elite my friend,we have a forum for people just like you -join us here

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/life-extension-andropause-masters-bodybuilding/




RADAR

 

[adatudz]

Thanks Radar....found my way to the forum you suggested.
I did contact a Life Extension place who has set me up with blood tests, and possible Testosterone shots, estrogen blocker and some Deca, although the Deca kind of scares me because I have heard that Deca can produce great anxiety, one of the reasons I am zapping up my Testosterone level...With low T, I has anxiety big time, something I never had in my youth. i am also on Lamictal, a mood stabilizer,100mg ( low dose)

Sorry, I posted this on another question, but I did not think it worked ( some computer problems on my end)

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I dont think you "shouldnt" take any AAS. But if your a noob to lifting, especially at your age, then just be careful and get a good base going first. Get your body/muscles/tendons used to the stress. Build some mass naturally first. I think at that point some low dose test would do miracles for you. I believe HGH was mentioned in this thread also.
I have never heard of deca giving anxiety though? Again, anything is possible but I dont think you would get it from deca. Deca is an awsome AAS. Its yum yum good for your joints too. Again, you dont need a ton to see results.

 

[adatudz]

Yea, on Thursday I get the blood work to see if I am a candidate for TRT, although, I sure i will be. But, if the Deca is an option too, I am going to go for it. I am determined to get big, and my dream is to at least before I die compete in one contest. I know that may sound foolish, and I am sensitive to this because a few men ( not on this site) have written me and told me that it is too Late to accomplish anything at my age in bodybuilding (61). That not only pisses me off, it makes me more determined to do it. Love to find a hard core bodybuilder in Baltimore to mentor me. I will show all those fuckers who said I am a has been how much of a has been I am not. And if I have to get some extra help to do it, so be it.

My entire life I have been stuck with body image problems, and I have to do 3 things before I die
- have an awesome body
- play the guitar really fine
- have a great relationship

 

[joe d]

just stick with the trt. running cycles will ruin you. if the doc doesnt prescribe it to you dont do it.

im not trying to make you mad like your friends did but as much as you and some others refuse to belive it. the lifestyle you are after is an unhealthy one. intense training is bad for you. it will damage your organs. healthy exercize and diet is where i would be focusing if it was me.

 

[Nelson Montana]

just stick with the trt. running cycles will ruin you. if the doc doesnt prescribe it to you dont do it.

im not trying to make you mad like your friends did but as much as you and some others refuse to belive it. the lifestyle you are after is an unhealthy one. intense training is bad for you. it will damage your organs. healthy exercize and diet is where i would be focusing if it was me.

Props to joe d. Dropped 20 pounds and bf on LESS gear. Nice work bro.

 

[adatudz]

just stick with the trt. running cycles will ruin you. if the doc doesnt prescribe it to you dont do it.

im not trying to make you mad like your friends did but as much as you and some others refuse to belive it. the lifestyle you are after is an unhealthy one. intense training is bad for you. it will damage your organs. healthy exercize and diet is where i would be focusing if it was me.

I appreciate your comment, but the doctor is going to prescribe this to me. I am spending 400 bucks on blood work. I realize that for me, I need a doctor to prescribe, I am not that well versed on the subject to give an intelligent answer, but I will for one thing certain weigh my options. I am working out 3-4 times a week for an intense hour, and doing aerobics at least 4 times a week for 45 minutes, so that is certainly not unhealthy.

If i was a young buck like most on here, then we would be singing a different tune. I am not foolish enough to think that I will ever look like some of the men on here, but I can be the best that I can be with what I have.

 

[doublebicep]

adatudz - welcome from a fellow middle age member and great questions!

 

[joe d]

I appreciate your comment, but the doctor is going to prescribe this to me. I am spending 400 bucks on blood work. I realize that for me, I need a doctor to prescribe, I am not that well versed on the subject to give an intelligent answer, but I will for one thing certain weigh my options. I am working out 3-4 times a week for an intense hour, and doing aerobics at least 4 times a week for 45 minutes, so that is certainly not unhealthy.

If i was a young buck like most on here, then we would be singing a different tune. I am not foolish enough to think that I will ever look like some of the men on here, but I can be the best that I can be with what I have.

well that sounds better. your post about people telling you you where to old had me thinking you where about to go all out with no regard. ant that would have had devistating effects. good luck to you on your quest.