Out of all the religious debates....

[krishna]

So have we made any progress everybody? Or shall we go deeper?

 

[foreigngirl]

So have we made any progress everybody? Or shall we go deeper?

its gonna be wasting of time typing about thios subject, cause nobody is gonna abonden their beleifs and nobody is gonna admitthey they are wrong. But it does make a nice reading

 

[krishna]

its gonna be wasting of time typing about thios subject, cause nobody is gonna abonden their beleifs and nobody is gonna admitthey they are wrong. But it does make a nice reading

There is obviously some kind of life energy, or there wouldn't be living things. If you read the doctrines of many of the enlightened beings throughout time (i.e., Jesus, Buddha, Krishnamurti, etc.) there seems to be a common theme. This leads me to believe that there probably is some sort of universal truth or being (maybe simply just energy) that unites every living thing. Throughout history, many people have felt this universal energy and interpreted it the only way they know how--rational thought. Christians call it the Holy Spirit; Buddhists call it dharma, etc. The only problem is that this energy is not in the realm of thought, it is its own entity. People try to ascribe emotions and thought to something that most likely isn't even a being, it's just energy, it's our life support. It doesn't have a mind, it's the spark that sustains our own minds. We are god! We are the energy that creates us. How can we be so foolish to think that we carry our thoughts and identity with us when we die? Those things come from the mind, and when the mind dies, the only thing left is the energy that is released. The enlightened ones know that you cannot see the way things really are until you transcend thought and identity. If enlightenment is the highest attainment, and enlightenment entails transcendence of identity, then how could we possibly recede back into thought and identity when we die? It doesn't make any sense at all. The brain creates identity through experience and integration. When the brain is gone, so is your identity. You (even though you are no longer you) are simply energy at that point. Enlightened minds have seen this even while alive.

 

[foreigngirl]

There is obviously some kind of life energy, or there wouldn't be living things. If you read the doctrines of many of the enlightened beings throughout time (i.e., Jesus, Buddha, Krishnamurti, etc.) there seems to be a common theme. This leads me to believe that there probably is some sort of universal truth or being (maybe simply just energy) that unites every living thing. Throughout history, many people have felt this universal energy and interpreted it the only way they know how--rational thought. Christians call it the Holy Spirit; Buddhists call it dharma, etc. The only problem is that this energy is not in the realm of thought, it is its own entity. People try to ascribe emotions and thought to something that most likely isn't even a being, it's just energy, it's our life support. It doesn't have a mind, it's the spark that sustains our own minds. We are god! We are the energy that creates us. How can we be so foolish to think that we carry our thoughts and identity with us when we die? Those things come from the mind, and when the mind dies, the only thing left is the energy that is released. The enlightened ones know that you cannot see the way things really are until you transcend thought and identity. If enlightenment is the highest attainment, and enlightenment entails transcendence of identity, then how could we possibly recede back into thought and identity when we die? It doesn't make any sense at all. The brain creates identity through experience and integration. When the brain is gone, so is your identity. You (even though you are no longer you) are simply energy at that point. Enlightened minds have seen this even while alive.

yes, I beleive all that. Thats why when your soul leaves you, you dont remember anything from your life. Thats why when you get reincarnated you dont remember anything at all from the previous lives

 

[silverbackn]

yes, I beleive all that. Thats why when your soul leaves you, you dont remember anything from your life. Thats why when you get reincarnated you dont remember anything at all from the previous lives

You believe in re-incarnation? I thought you said you were a Christian earlier. I'm confused.

 

[krishna]

yes, I beleive all that. Thats why when your soul leaves you, you dont remember anything from your life. Thats why when you get reincarnated you dont remember anything at all from the previous lives

If you believed what I said you wouldn't believe we have a soul. A soul gives you identity. There are no souls, just energy. Reincarnation is simply the recycling of energy.

 

[foreigngirl]

You believe in re-incarnation? I thought you said you were a Christian earlier. I'm confused.

I am orthodox, but I beleive in science, reincarnation, a little bit from everything. I told you that I dont think the Bible is a litterate reading. I beleive there is some supreme being, whatever its called. And I beleive that if someone doesnt do so good in this life, God might give him a chance to make it better, by giving him another life, without memory of the previous so he can better himself

 

[beefcake28]

I am orthodox, but I beleive in science, reincarnation, a little bit from everything. I told you that I dont think the Bible is a litterate reading. I beleive there is some supreme being, whatever its called. And I beleive that if someone doesnt do so good in this life, God might give him a chance to make it better, by giving him another life, without memory of the previous so he can better himself

How convenient... pick and choose what you want from a little bit of everything, with no repercussions or consequences whatsoever.

I would put my faith in believing there is no God before putting any belief in a compilation of "niceities" from random philosophies.

 

[krishna]

How convenient... pick and choose what you want from a little bit of everything, with no repercussions or consequences whatsoever.

I would put my faith in believing there is no God before putting any belief in a compilation of "niceities" from random philosophies.

There is some good in every faith. Can't fault people for opening up their minds to other possibilities. Oh wait, that's the christian way--either obey or suffer eternal damnation. I forgot that there's no room for mind expansion with the god of the bible.

 

[foreigngirl]

How convenient... pick and choose what you want from a little bit of everything, with no repercussions or consequences whatsoever.

I would put my faith in believing there is no God before putting any belief in a compilation of "niceities" from random philosophies.

to each their own. Every religion thinks that they are right and the real one. So, what is so special about ours? I like to read and expand my knowledge about everything. At the end I am orthodox again, but with broadened views



krishna - you are right on.