Out of all the religious debates....

[krishna]

Where did you get this 60,000 number? Anatomically modern human remains have been found that are considerably older than that. Over 100,000 years at the Klassies River Cave site in South Africa, and I think there's some Ethiopian site dated at 150,000 years.

I'm talking about man accompanied by evidence of rational thought, i.e., art, symbols of communication, etc., but you're right about anatomically modern remains. This simply drives home the point even further.

 

[foreigngirl]

I've yet to see a good christian address the fact that the geneology of the bible only dates back roughly 6,000 years. How do you explain this considering that science has traced human existence back almost 60,000 years?

they will tell you that our time table is wrong . Cause I heard someone say that the Earth moves away from the sun I dont know how much every year, so if our tim etable was right, then planet earth would've been probably where Jupiter is now.

I think they are hallucinating.

 

[biteme]

they will tell you that our time table is wrong . Cause I heard someone say that the Earth moves away from the sun I dont know how much every year, so if our tim etable was right, then planet earth would've been probably where Jupiter is now.

I think they are hallucinating.

You're all hallucinating. You are deceived and full of illusions and delusions. Not your fault.

 

[Devastation]

when you say geneology, are you refering to it starting with adam and eve? not too many educated religous folk actually believe adam and eve were real people, nor their children, or anyone of their descent. the whole book of genesis is pretty much known to be folktales, the way ancient people believed the way the world came into being, and mixed in some tales of morality to help along the evolution of society. when they say nebechanezer was 950 yrs old (whatever, whoever) that is more of a description of how good a person he/she was, and not how old they actually lived to be in years, let alone in roman calendar years. among the first real people mentioned in the bible is Abraham. Christians AND scholars believed he lived approximately 3850 to 4000 yrs ago

i think both sides of the debate would agree science/recorded history and the book of genesis not matching up isn't a very good arguement against the belief in a higher being

 

[foreigngirl]

You're all hallucinating. You are deceived and full of illusions and delusions. Not your fault.

oh, dont tell me that you think that we've been here for only 6000 years!!! Cause our fosils sure say a different story

 

[biteme]

oh, dont tell me that you think that we've been here for only 6000 years!!! Cause our fosils sure say a different story

LOL. No, I was just speaking in general terms.

 

[foreigngirl]

when you say geneology, are you refering to it starting with adam and eve? not too many educated religous folk actually believe adam and eve were real people, nor their children, or anyone of their descent. the whole book of genesis is pretty much known to be folktales, the way ancient people believed the way the world came into being, and mixed in some tales of morality to help along the evolution of society. when they say nebechanezer was 950 yrs old (whatever, whoever) that is more of a description of how good a person he/she was, and not how old they actually lived to be in years, let alone in roman calendar years. among the first real people mentioned in the bible is Abraham. Christians AND scholars believed he lived approximately 3850 to 4000 yrs ago

i think both sides of the debate would agree science/recorded history and the book of genesis not matching up isn't a very good arguement against the belief in a higher being

somehow I think that Adam and Eve was made up by the early church to supress the woman and make her submissive to the man, so they made her the sinner. Just the same as they took out the gospels of Mary Magdalene, cause they clearly showed that she was close to Jesus and the people of that time didnt want a woman having a significant role in the Holy Book.

 

[krishna]

when you say geneology, are you refering to it starting with adam and eve? not too many educated religous folk actually believe adam and eve were real people, nor their children, or anyone of their descent. the whole book of genesis is pretty much known to be folktales, the way ancient people believed the way the world came into being, and mixed in some tales of morality to help along the evolution of society. when they say nebechanezer was 950 yrs old (whatever, whoever) that is more of a description of how good a person he/she was, and not how old they actually lived to be in years, let alone in roman calendar years. among the first real people mentioned in the bible is Abraham. Christians AND scholars believed he lived approximately 3850 to 4000 yrs ago

i think both sides of the debate would agree science/recorded history and the book of genesis not matching up isn't a very good arguement against the belief in a higher being

It's not at all an argument against a higher being, it's an argument against the bible's validity as being "the truth". The majority of christians put all their faith in a book that is at least in part composed of "folktales". They use these "folktales" as a reason to deny science and actual evidence of existence. And what do you mean by "educated religious folk"? Out of all my years of religious studies and following the path of christianity, I only met one minister who didn't believe adam and eve were actual people. I've only met one other "christian" who thought like you do. I am glad you are a rational man, but saying that not too many educated religious folk believe that adam and eve were real doesn't seem to be true in my experience.

 

[foreigngirl]

It's not at all an argument against a higher being, it's an argument against the bible's validity as being "the truth". The majority of christians put all their faith in a book that is at least in part composed of "folktales". They use these "folktales" as a reason to deny science and actual evidence of existence. And what do you mean by "educated religious folk"? Out of all my years of religious studies and following the path of christianity, I only met one minister who didn't believe adam and eve were actual people. I've only met one other "christian" who thought like you do. I am glad you are a rational man, but saying that not too many educated religious folk believe that adam and eve were real doesn't seem to be true in my experience.

well, IMO, the Old Testament is a bunch of either folk tales or bunch of truth blown out of proportion.

 

[krishna]

well, IMO, the Old Testament is a bunch of either folk tales or bunch of truth blown out of proportion.

Ya it's both IMO. It's simply one culture's traditions and teachings past down through the generations. Every culture has their own story to tell. In the case of Judaism and Christianity, they think their story is the center of the universe, and that god chose them over all the other people. Maybe their vein/egocentric doctrines are why people always take stabs at them.