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on week 3 already gained 15lbs wtf??

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This is my first cycle. I just injected for the third time last night of 350ml of deca and 500ml of test e. I know both are long esters, and everything I've read states that it takes up to 6 weeks before the anabolic effect really kicks in, but I've already gained 15lbs solid (went from 183lbs to 198lbs) and lost a lil fat. Three weeks ago I was benching 225lbs for 6 reps, I put up 265lbs for 5 reps today; I was doing sets of just body weight wide grip pull ups for 10 reps, now I can do weighted pullups with a 25lbs weight tied on. All my lifts are going up and I've noticed that I have a much quicker recovery between sets. The only thing I can tell that I'm doing differently is that I cut out all alcohol completely and I make sure I get around 200grams of protein every day. On a pretty strick diet, (eating oatz every night with greek yogurt mixed in and whip cream on top mmmm), but everything is balanced out well. I was thinking that maybe it's just water weight, but lifts are really improving. If it was bc of the alcohol, then I feel like a real idiot for all those years of drinking. The only thing weird, is I feel like my dick isn't as hard as it usually is. Idk if thats bc I've watched so much porn that I'm desensitized or the deca. btw age 26; m; currently 198lbs; lifting for 6 years.

My goal weight for this cycle was 205lbs, should I cut the cycle short as I was planning on 8 weeks, with clomid, hcg and aromasin for pct. Also have some bromo on hand incase of sides. Would it be unwise to cut the cyle short or would it help be transition to pct better?
 
So you're in you're third week of your first cycle . . .

I've seen pretty magical things happen in first cycles so this isn't crazy, although I'd suggest it's probably mostly water weight.

I don't know how much you were drinking, but booze has a dehydrating effect, so you're probably getting some water weight back from that as well as performance.

So to answer your post: E. All of the above.

It sounds likes you want to be conservative, but I'd personally take that cycle up to 10-12 weeks. You'll get more from the deca that way.
 
usually got wasted about 2x a week. Going clubbing on the weekends and getting drunk enough to either have a hangover or feel rundown. Always felt fine the day after that.

I don't want to be any bigger than like 210lbs, 225lbs max, I'm 5'll maybe and I play competitive doubles tennis in an adult league, nothing serious, but getting any bigger and I'm just going to be almost too big to be running up and down a court. I'm thinking that I might get xbox huge, especially when the bloat kicks in and balloon up to like 230lbs. I wanna keep my gains tho, would really like to get to a 300lbs bench and a 400lbs squat, only squating 325lbs for 6 reps atg, could work a lil more on that area I guess and go a lil lighter on my upper body.
 
first cycle you get the best gains.. i gained around 25lbs off tte n dbols in just 8 weeks, went from 143lbs to 165lbs
n my second cycle same thing and gained only 10 lbs lol
but ya keep going you might put on more weight!
 
lets lay off "i got wasted" crap on this board. good for you for quitting drinking but this isn't a drinking forum, lets stick to AAS.

secondly how much weight you gain means very little.. I gained 4 pounds on my primo cycle and I looked way better after and my bf% was the same. the scale lies. go by what you see.

thirdly you are dealing with a lot of water weight and I really hope you have an AI on hand and know how to use it.. and also that you are running cabaser and have hcg ready to go.. since you ran deca for a first cycle its gonna be a rough landing and you aren't gonna know what to do

and whether its water weight or not it still doesn't mean you wont see strength gains. 183 pound guy benching 225 for 6 reps isn't very strong, I do not think you were even close to your genetic potential before jumping on deca.

so in conclusion no its not true it takes 6 weeks to 'kick in' and 15 pounds for someone way below their genetic potential isn't a stretch for a first cycle of deca.

now just make sure you turn your lifestyle around AFTER your cycle, not just for the cycle.. if you want to have a prayer of keeping these strength gains you have.
 
Mushroomhead said:
damn bro please tell me that's not you in the avatar ^ !!!
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not sure if you are joking with the guy but we will not condone flaming other posters on here. not on any of the mods watches will we tolerate this.

his avatar looks better than 99% of americans even most people at the gym. so not sure why you are flaming him. PM me if you have a problem with the poster, don't bring it on the forums. I've seen you break 2 rules in the past month on here, so do me a favor and GO AND READ THE RULES in the sticky above, read it again, and read it again.
 
Well, I've always said all along that gains should come pretty quickly, and more so on a first cycle. But considering you're using Deca I don't have to go too far out on a limb and say it's mostly water.

Also, you may be sorry using clomid, especially after deca.
 
You're 19. You'r taking 850 mgs of gear a week. You weigh 170.

Mods, please do not close this thread simply because this guy is underage. He needs to learn and others need to see.

This is a perfect example how to fuck yourself up.

Dude, at 19 you can get to 170 with supps, food and training,. That's what bodybuilding is about. These drugs are serious and meant for people to push beyond their capabilities. You don;t even know what they are yet and you're using more gear than I've ever used at once.

I'm not saying that you can't use steroids, just because you;re young. I'm saying you can SERIOUSLY hurt yourself using them so young. Stop. Now.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Well, I've always said all along that gains should come pretty quickly, and more so on a first cycle. But considering you're using Deca I don't have to go too far out on a limb and say it's mostly water.

Also, you may be sorry using clomid, especially after deca.
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I used a low dose of clomid after deca along with hcgenerate and post cycle/unleashed and recovered just fine
 
140 lb kids using dbols at 18 is why this shit will never be legal.



to the OP. did beast/test for my first cycle and i was up 15 lbs like super fast. then it kinda went slower after that and my body comp just kept improving and i ended up being 20 lbs heavier in 12 weeks.
 
lol no clue why u guys r tripping out so bad but where im from kids start taking roids at like 16.. n i obviously hit my plateau n waited a while before i started
 
P_o_B said:
lol no clue why u guys r tripping out so bad but where im from kids start taking roids at like 16.. n i obviously hit my plateau n waited a while before i started
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obviously you hit your plateu? lol


not trying to flame you man but what does kids doing them at 16 have to do with it being ok or not?
 
well i came across this site after my cycle.. had no idea it was bad doing it at my age.
people that i hangout with where doing it and i liked how they were getting big so obviously i felt like doing it too.. not like i committed a huge crime
n ur a moron.
 
gymjunkie09 said:
I used a low dose of clomid after deca along with hcgenerate and post cycle/unleashed and recovered just fine
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Cool. Some people don't have a problem with Clomid though many do. Your recovery was probably due more to the UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE.
 
P_o_B said:
well i came across this site after my cycle.. had no idea it was bad doing it at my age.
people that i hangout with where doing it and i liked how they were getting big so obviously i felt like doing it too.. not like i committed a huge crime
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at your age you have no experience and no base... you have natural test that you should be using instead of introducing foreign test in your body and shutting your own test down. its like living on the beach and having a swimming pool. you might as well use the beach that is already there.. the reason we have these dumb steroid laws is the same reason I have to lock my jacuzzi up at night, cuz of kids that might come in my yard and drown in it then i get sued for their stupidity.. so responsible adults don't get to juice cause of kids abusing roids. so that is the main reason we have the rule on this site is no advice for those under 21. so please either respect that or go post on one of the other sections of the site. thanks.

***and for everyone we are not gonna have this pissing matches on this forum calling each other moron back and forth. if you have a problem with a poster PM them and be respectful and kindly give your opinion. if the pissing match continues I am gonna time every person involved out so don't get mad at me I am giving you fair warning. *** these pissing matches do nothing except piss each other off and create friction among members. lets be respectful of each other, the guy you are pissing off online could be the same dude that spots you tomorow at the gym, think of it that way.
 
P_o_B said:
lol no clue why u guys r tripping out so bad but where im from kids start taking roids at like 16.. n i obviously hit my plateau n waited a while before i started
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Where I'm from kids are taking heroin at 16. That doesn't make it smart.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Where I'm from kids are taking heroin at 16. That doesn't make it smart.
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not saying its smart.. but peer pressure does have a huge impact on some ppl.
heroin is a pookie drug that ppl use to get high.. no good outcome
steroids get u big n u workout harder
kinda different isnt it
 
i ran nothing but clomid for 45 days after being on for 12 weeks and my total test was 790...

pub med articles say clomid works.
 
gymjunkie09 said:
Damn....what did your dosing look like?
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500 mg cyp for 10 weeks. Some prop and epistane at the end made it 12 weeks. 30mg beastrdrol the first 4.

I'm sure me being 21 at the time and my first cycle made it easier to recover? Doing test/eq for 15 weeks right now and gonna be more aggressive on the pct for this one.
 
twenty47 said:
i ran nothing but clomid for 45 days after being on for 12 weeks and my total test was 790...

pub med articles say clomid works.
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Not really. Not for recovery from steroid use at least. Also, most tests are done over the course of months-- which bodybuilders PCT does not involve. And how many studies have there been 2 months after cessation of use? None I've seen.
 
P_o_B said:
not saying its smart.. but peer pressure does have a huge impact on some ppl.
heroin is a pookie drug that ppl use to get high.. no good outcome
steroids get u big n u workout harder
kinda different isnt it
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You don't know what you're talking about. Steroids have detrimental effects.

So you're doing them because you're friends pushed you into it? Don't be such a pussy.
 
ok my first comment turned out to be very controveersial for no reason, all i was saying was that i got good gains to in the first few weeks.
i didnt do it cuz i was forced too.. just saw ppl doing it and wanted to do it
nothing wrong with it.. i do have the right to decide what i do lol
 
P_o_B said:
ok my first comment turned out to be very controveersial for no reason, all i was saying was that i got good gains to in the first few weeks.
i didnt do it cuz i was forced too.. just saw ppl doing it and wanted to do it
nothing wrong with it.. i do have the right to decide what i do lol
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and we have the right to disapprove
 
P_o_B said:
ok my first comment turned out to be very controveersial for no reason, all i was saying was that i got good gains to in the first few weeks.
i didnt do it cuz i was forced too.. just saw ppl doing it and wanted to do it
nothing wrong with it.. i do have the right to decide what i do lol
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i'm not really sure how much more clear I can be.

5) We do not condone advising people under the age of 21 to use AAS.

If you're under 21, dont ask. If asked by an under-21 member, don't tell.
Saying "I know you're going to do it anyway even though it's a mistake" is not "providing guidance" -- it is a cop-out.


you are welcome to learn and read. but once you cross the line the plug will be pulled... also you are gonna have to understand that no one on here is gonna be on your side so its best not to antagonize other posters and make enemies. you would be best served heading over to the diet and weightlifting forums where there are other guys your age, just some advice.

everyone is a know it all at your age, I GET IT. but realize that you do not have the experience or knowledge at your age nor do your buddies who juice. in 10 or 15 years you will look back and understand exactly what I'm talking about.
 
stevesmi said:
i'm not really sure how much more clear I can be.

5) We do not condone advising people under the age of 21 to use AAS.

If you're under 21, dont ask. If asked by an under-21 member, don't tell.
Saying "I know you're going to do it anyway even though it's a mistake" is not "providing guidance" -- it is a cop-out.


you are welcome to learn and read. but once you cross the line the plug will be pulled... also you are gonna have to understand that no one on here is gonna be on your side so its best not to antagonize other posters and make enemies. you would be best served heading over to the diet and weightlifting forums where there are other guys your age, just some advice.

everyone is a know it all at your age, I GET IT. but realize that you do not have the experience or knowledge at your age nor do your buddies who juice. in 10 or 15 years you will look back and understand exactly what I'm talking about.
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I'm not sure anyone is actually giving advice on usage. It's more about why it's a mistake.
 
Wow....sometimes it is REAL hard to get someone to admit they made a mistake. The past is the past I guess....learn from your mistakes and stay off the gear for a BUNCH more years!
 
i get it now thanks ppl .. u guys obviously do have more experience and knowledge about this stuff
but this stuff is addicting :$
 
After monitoring the situation for a while, I'm glad to see things have calmed.

OP, just wanna say nice gains. Whats your planned PCT looking like? You found any noticeable sides to the Deca yet?
 
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