Older Guy wants to see the diference

[Buel2007]

Hey Guys, I am new to this forum so firstly hello and thanks for reading!!
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I have the following stats:

46 Years
205lbs
5`9"
between 18 -20% BF
clean bench 275lbs
inline DB Press 100lbs for 10 reps, i train solo without a spot.

I have trained for 30 years but in the last 18 months have trained with dedication to a proper program for 6 days a week, having a healthy diet, no alcahol or tabacco.

I am a security contractor working in troubled areas of Asia! I work a rotation of 13 weeks on and 4 weeks of in a military style environment. I have a strict training regime but over the last twelve months have started to feel the aches strains and pains of over training, and my joints, ligaments and tendons can now feel every rep i push. So i have had a cursory search into taking a test cycle to see if it will revitalise my body and boost my physical mass gains, as i have been stuck at the same body mass for over 6 months, this last rotation i have tried mass gainer powders various cycles of proteins and supplements, other than costing a lot of money I never seem to be able to push past my current status.

I also have the usual subcutaneous fat assosiated with my age that i cant shift at the bottom of my obliques (love handles as the wife terms them). despite lateral bends twists and a myriad of other ab and oblique excersises.

So guys i would like to see who steps up and can help in the advice department, i am going to get me something to try, my mind is set on this, i am not some skinny kid going through a phase... this has been a life long push for me and I need to start to see the gains i dreamed of when i started. If anything to help strengthen my joints and tendons. I only have a 4 week window before i am back out to work. and i start this period in a week or so..I would be willing to try and carry on something once i get back to work for a 12 week period, but initially i would like to see what affect it has on me after the first 4 weeks..

Thanks guys for reading, I welcome any comments.

An old Soldier..

 

[simply dave]

Well I'm an "older guy" myself and you seem intent on doing a cycle, but I'd first recommend losing some more BF naturally before you begin a cycle. I'm 5'10" and was at just a hair under 220lbs a few years back. I dropped 40lbs in 3 months naturally before I began my first cycle (test e at 500mg/week administered 2xweek). I put on a good 20lbs of lean body mass 15 of which I kept.

Diet is crucial. How are you eating?

 

[Buel2007]

Simply Dave,

Thanks for the reply, firstly I have had to guess at BF there is a recent pic of me on my profile, diet is basically whats on offer, I mostly eat at military chow halls so it depends what they have in stock, i would say that 85% of the time i get good clean food. The rest is what ever they have to fill up on, such is life out here.

Breakfast:
Porridge oats with a scoop of Cassein or Whey Protein powder mixed in
4 Boiled eggs with yolk removed
heeped table spoon of cottage cheese
green olives
Low fat Natural yoghurt
Pinaple, grapefruit, melon.

Lunch:
Tunna/chichen brest wrap on wholemeal rye onions. low fat youghurt, apple bannana

Dinner
I go for white meet Chicken, Turkey or Tuna, Steak, I eat with that whatever green is on offer Brocolli, or green beans, esparagus, i try to get brown rice when on menu, i eat nuts seeds at night.

I can only get three meels a day, the rules out here, i supplement in between with mass gainer protein shakes, to try and get the calories on board.

Dave trust me when i came out to work out here i dropped 20lbs with a descent diet, i have done 16 week rotations out here where my diet has been absolutely flawless to drop pounds, which i do, but the stubborn areas just stick. I have tried to bulk over the last 14 weeks and my body shape and muscles have thickend as opposed to just putting on fat.. so i want to push on this theme, hence why I want to pack on a few more pounds say another 5lbs in muscle. Thanks again, for advice.

 

[Tectime]

I'm an older guy myself, 50yrs old, and Dave is right about losing some more bf. at your age there are alot of options. Tes, deca, hgh all the goodies are available, find a good hrt doc, that will get you pharma grade juice and all the rx add ins you need. Anastrozole, hcg the right way. If your deployed to Asia now, stay strong when you get home find a doc that is cool about hrt and get on the grow train!

 

[simply dave]

Well your diet looks pretty good. As for losing the weight about your waist, sorry to tell you this my friend, but there's no such thing as "spot reduction". It'll come off with time, but at our age it does seem to take a bit more effort and time. I'm just now getting to the point where my obliques and abdominals are "showing" and believe you me...I've had to be very strict in my diet.

Anyway, packing on 5lbs of lean body mass is easy. Like I said, for my 1st cycle I ran test e at 500mg/week. I was very strict in my diet (high protein/low fat/low carb) and packed on 20lbs while losing BF. In additional to my lifting regimen, I ran about 15 miles/week. HTH my friend.

 

[Tectime]

Hey if your waist is getting thicker from working out stop using weights when you train your abs, only resistance you need for abs is your body weight, like all muscle groups weights are going to add size, abs are small muscles, they need reps reps reps no added weights love handles are a diet issue I understand your stuck eating like you have to. My waist line two years ago 35 Levi's I wear 32 Levi's now ( course my ass and legs blow out the seams) from changing diet and living habits.

 

[Bbkgary]

I'm 46, started HRT. About 9 months ago, though I'm definitely no expert, I agree w Tec and Dave..I was about 245-247- wen I jumped on 200 mg/ml test weekly, as well as 2-35 iu's HGH 6 days weekly. Also vitamin b12 weekly. .though not sure, I'd estimate my body fat had to be at least 22-24 wen started?.. I'm now around 14.8%..abs are showing and have lost pretty much most of that lower belly fat you speak of. My diet is really tight, all my greens straight outta our garden, lotta chicken/seafood..no processed , no gluten...I ve worked out pretty much 5-6 days for this first 9 months, now gnna prob drop a day to get more rest/growth..don't kno if this helps you or not just wanted to share..btw, energy levels were very low per HRT..now feeling strong!

 

[Buel2007]

Gentlemen,

Thankyou for your comments and advice, I am living in Britain so I will go see a doc when home next, and I will start to rep out on abs. I am going to take both your advice.. I am going to try the test Simply Dave and I will try this for a 4 week cycle, to see how my body reacts.. Seeing as though it will be only for 4 weeks, i do not expect to see any gains other that any adverse affects.. will I need to add anything else to this as I stop the cycle in 4 weeks?

 

[Bbkgary]

Oops wanted to mention I'm now weighing 233, my waist was 40" wen started and other day I bought a pair of 36" shorts that still have some sag to em!..I'm stoked, haven't had that size waist in many years.

 

[Buel2007]

bbkgary,

Are you saying I can just go into the docs and ask for HRT?