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OK..so you can flame me..but I would like some answers..please

then again isnt that why we love this country you can belong to whichever religion, cult, or anything else, however narrow minded, obsessive, or crazy that might be that is our right. you can even drink or inject you winny. just dont get caught.
 
I am heathen or agnostic.. whatever...

My girlfriend is Hindu............ That is her perogative and I do not denounce or criticize her faith...

Personally I think religion is a pile of shite that causes far too many problems (look at the Taliban for fucks sake)...

If god were 'just' why would he let humans suffer such pain? If god were intelligent, why would he create such confusion regarding his existence - by not showing up for 2000 years (and did he ever really show himself then!!??)

It's a pile of crap. God is not love. God is crap.

But us humans seem to need religion.. we are so very insecure and questioning...
 
Gary you hit the nail on the head with religion, I do think there is something out there that we don't know about, but religion was brought about to control the masses, to brainwash them (seems a very successful process). Also it seems rather incongruous that the church has so much wealth and there are so many starving, ill and homeless. Surely every man of the cloth should give his all to his fellow man, no fancy robes, gold crosses, massive churches, rings, urns etc.
 
Realgains said:



God does not approve of anything that harms the body.
God does not approve of vanity.
God does not want us to draw attention us ourselves.
God wants us to lift naturally BUT we don't want to now, and that includes me.

How do you know what does God approve and what not? Did he talk to you? Don't think so

"God wants us to lift naturally" what a fuckin bullshit you're talkin ! Now don't tell me you read that in the bible....
 
I shall smoke weed. I shall take the odd course of roids. Fuck god. Fuck Jesus. Fuck Gnesh the elephant god. Fuck Allah. What ridiculous creatures we are to believe in something unproven, unseen, and based on written words written by superstitous humans.....
 
If god were 'just' why would he let humans suffer such pain?

Everyone gets his in the end. What happens along the way is the true challenge. Pain represents many things. It could be a test of faith. Who knows. We humans tend to equate pain with "bad", but all pain really is, is a part of life...and it's up to us to figure out how to turn our so called "disadvantage" into an advantage...learn from it, to become a greater person than we used to be. Without pain, we would never grow.

If god were intelligent, why would he create such confusion regarding his existence - by not showing up for 2000 years (and did he ever really show himself then!!??)

A couple things here. We have free will to do as we please, so God didn't "create" the confusion. We did. If God made His existence so obvious, then we would have absolutely no reason not to follow Him, right? Wrong. Because there will always be people who deny even what their eyes and heart tell them. It's inevitable. It happened 2,000 years ago, and it will happen again. It's all a part of the struggle of life I suppose.
 
Audio8 remember

"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first" Jesus

"They think it strange that you do not plunge with them into the same flood of dissipation, and they heap abuse on you"

And for us all to ponder....

"For since the ceation of the world Gods invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.....Although they claim to be wise , they became fools"

"Mans wisdom is foolishness to God"
 
Heffe,
People back then believed the world was flat because that was what they were told. It was the norm that society instilled in them, and thus there was no reason to question it. Religion is more half-and-half I suppose. Many believe, and many don't. Thus, you are forced to be actively agnostic (all that really means is too question everything), to find your own answer for yourself. There is extensive soul-searching involved, much more than trying to decide if the world is flat or not.

Realgains,
all wonderful quotes. The long one completely backs up my earlier statements. how nice :)

Where did you find those by the way?
 
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