OK..so you can flame me..but I would like some answers..please

[Audio8]

Powerhouse7

Moderate alcohol consumption and moderate roid use is not the same dude. Moderate alcohol use does not harm you. In fact moderate red wine use lowers cholesterol. People in bible times drank only mild wines and beer and those who walked with God avoided drunkenness. Wine was often safer than the water in those days too.

It is a fact my friend that MODERATE roid use has positive affects but ALSO negative negative affects on the body, but we take them because we are vain and love the strength they give us.

You, and many others(not all) have been deceived into thinking that moderate roid use does not have ANY negative impact upon the body.....Tell me dude.... really now.....is the shutting down of natural test production for months a good thing, is the increase in blood pressure that we ALL GET to some degree a good thing, are the high levels of DHT and estrogen a good thing...come on now bro. Take the drugs but please don't say they are good for you. Be smart and do what you can to reduce the harmful aspects but don't be deceived.

God does not approve of anything that harms the body.
God does not approve of vanity.
God does not want us to draw attention us ourselves.
God wants us to lift naturally BUT we don't want to now, and that includes me. But right is right and wrong is wrong. Roid use is not a "grey area" dude not in the eyes of the Almighty.
A real believer will know this in his heart and will some day reject the juice.

Realgains,
I agree with you my friend, except on one point. Nothing in life is as black and white as you put it. Many things harm the body. Drinking, even a very little bit, can cause some degree of harm on the body. Hell, even eating certain foods causes some level of harm. I think the real question is, at what point does the harm interfer with God's will for you. I'm not trying to defend the use of steroids here, as it is obvious that roids can cause serious harm to the body. And not only physical harm, but can change your mentality and distract you from the true things in life, which is why I believe it is wrong for most people to use. Obviously it is ok for some to use for, lets say, physcial rehab after surgery for example, or aids patients, etc.

Though I am not one to practice what I preach in this instance. One day though, I will grow out of this phase, which is really all it is. Those who say it is their life have their priorities in the wrong order.

 

[Realgains]

Audio8.... I agree with much of what you say bro, and yes Roids as a medicine is okay for sure, BUT you say nothing is black or white?? Many many things are black and white dude....that "nothing is black or white saying is "of the world" dude, mans created idea...and it is bull.
Brother, we must face the fact that Roid use is wrong in the sight of God, except for medicinal reasons of course.
I know you know this to be true. Some day we will meet together by "the river" and say, vanity....it was pure vanity.

 

[Lord of the Pit]

Strange how a post can develop from a discussion about shooting winny into a theology lesson.

You guys light a candle for me and my gains.

God forgives all his children so who cares.

 

[GaryWary]

alcohol in moderation is not condemned in the bible. we all know that drinking too much can be harmful to the body and cause problem. they same can be said with food. I feel that steroids taken in sane doses is no more harmful then anything else used in moderation.

Oh how we like to kid ourselves!

I guess this mythical creature called god might be a bit anti-steroids...?!

Or maybe Jesus took dbol.. I mean it's been round fucking long enough! It may have even been helpful to his carrying of a heavy cross.

It's tuesday, and I feel the need to ruffle some feathers.....

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

What would God think? Why not just ask the Easter Bunny? It's about the same crap.

 

[G-Force]

Seein' as everybody here is very aware of the chemical and physical make up of their bodies especially the skeletal frame and it's musclature is nobody else of the opinion that we, along with the rest of the animal world were not designed but are the result of millions of years of evolution? So I'm sorry to all the christian Bro's here but as science advances it seems to disprove the readings of the bible which is why most of the world's leading scientists are non-believers especially the geneticists who tend to pour scorn on the theory of Adam and Eve!!!

 

[Lord of the Pit]

Talking of adam and eve, I think we have a small case of incest, who exactly did their kiddies procreate with apart from mum and dad or each other. tut tut tut.

 

[Behemoth]

drink the winny.....and leave God out of it....

Sin is simply the lack of moderation.......If you are neglecting other responsibilities such as family to purchase your gear....yeah, He's probably not pleased with you.

I had problems every time trying to inject the winny....so I drank it...works great....one less pin hole in your body.

 

[Behemoth]

G-Force....God's ok....He's doing fine.....

I know because I spoke with Him this morning.

 

[long Ball]

Realgains-
When you start preaching that everything is black and white in the eyes of GOD it just makes you sound like some church of christ freak (or some other christian cult). AS are wrong and right in so many different situations. Do you live your life for GOD or AS. Many people are into bodybuilding because it's an art form and they may or may not have vain in their heart. You're really giving bodybuilders a bad name. Not all of us take AS because we have vain in our hearts. Maybe this is just an art form that a lot of us are good at. I see nothing wrong with that. Maybe GOD wants some of us to use our good genetics to be role models to people who are unfit. You sound just like the general public that think us bodybuilders are a bunch of vain a**holes. I dont agree.