OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of the

[rudeboyja]

I can't throw stones. If it wasn't for abortions I would have had 4 kids before the age of 18. I did eventually figure out that condoms are a good thing

 

[Gymgurl]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

THis post makes me horny.

I think everything is making you horny these days

 

[stilleto]

I'm pro choice all the way, but yeah 5 is a bit too many. Surprised she's not infertile after so many, get that bitch on the pill.

ditto.
5 is just stupidity.

 

[manny78]

Pure trailerpark trash. Who payed for each of them ?

 

[Extra_Strong]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

Any action that you undertake bears your responsibility. Driving that car is your responsibility as is the maintenance of it, so you would be responsible for the financial repercussions of the accidental death. Any action also bears risk, and you have to weigh risk vs reward and side with whichever side suits you best.

I want a piece of ass, so I guess I will forgo the contraceptive? That argument has a logical fallacy because the risk of permanent detrimental outcomes outweighs the single night of reward. This argument also bears fruit with the STD's. The main moral breakdown in America today is the lack of personal responsibility. This has nothing to do with religion or a god.

good answer but i do not see how anyone can ever be responsible enough ...
so using this to push over blame does not seem practical.

 

[Lestat]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

Thank you for the thoughtful response.

It is some say, born with a "Tabula Rasa" in essence, a blank slate, my archnemisis Lestat and I have had great discussions on this about circumcision and pain.
But, what is knowing nothing. Is that the ultimate innocent that should be protected> isnt it true, the more one learns, the less innocent they become. The ultimate act of justice would be to protect not harm the innocent more than protecting a jaded childmolestor.

To think of a baby in the womb as nothing means a dereliction of duty some could argue. It is the most delicate and fragile of life. But, it is alive. Some argue their is a soul, when does that become valid?? When does the Constitution of the United States kick in and give them rights, human rights? These are the questions I raise. Note, there is no right or wrong answer to this.
This is a question of human rights, not a question of choice in this discussion. Framing it as a choice question> Well the man on the street hears more choices then, well who cant be in favor of that??

The moral and ethical discussion is but what I am trying to draw out. If I was to say to a woman, Hey, your baby looks just like Brad Pitt and then dollar signs form in her eyes and decides not to have an abortion but to raise a child actor. How is that appropriate??? If I was Pro-life and hated seeing lives taken for reasons viewed as more important, wouldnt that practitioner always say "Hey, looks like Brad Pitt". Seems ridiculous argument and I dont work in obstretics except for occassionally with heart malformations but BF Skinner would say that behaviorism. Rewarding statements influences the person who utters the statements as well.

A classic example was a professor who discounted behaviorism, well Skinner got together with students of his class and every time he walked into a certain spot, his students were(by experiment design) to reward him with smiles and open eyes and questions. By the end of the semester. He spoke 95% of the time from that spot.

See,, the point is ZEN

i don't want to be your archnemisis bro

 

[Extra_Strong]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

I was merely setting up the next logical question, if its wrong for a woman to have 5 abortions, then how is it not even worse to be a female abortion doctor, carrying out 50. Or 5000??
One, I phrase the discussion towards a female where everyone can get down on her and call her and irresponsible her. Next, I say what about a medical professional killing thousands more babies to pay her mortgage and buy her mercedes??

The problem I see it is that pro-choice argumenters really can never have a debate on this, even if I considered myself one. That the argument cant 'really' move beyond certain points that are accepted as invalid. Meaning, logically, the position is flawed

lets see.. for some reason i think people should be able to justify it by seeing that most women in this position are in a reckless state there are troubled and confused and in order to get what they want they are willing to do some risk taking actions. like the good ol hanger up the vagina in hopes of killing or doing the abortion their selves. but the result maybe killing themselves and the baby. 2 deaths.. but the doctors sees this as helping. He is insuring the safety of one life. So i hope people really so see the risks of the non abortion. or the results that could come from this.

 

[Extra_Strong]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

Thats the point isnt it?? Some women cant tolerate the pill, dont have sex often enough or simply are averse to hormonal manipulation of their bodies.

The fact that so often they get pregnant just go in like they are having a back massage and get it removed in a simple procedure is just another means of birthcontrol

The problem is drawing out hippocracies of pro-choice folks who buy the hype failing to think through the positions. Abortion is not wrong always, it happens most often naturally. Its the motives that we impugn. And here we see the prochoicers impugning and attributing motives. Some would say, that they are prochoice, to spite antiabortionists who oppose murdering fetuses lol

so are you saying that it is right some times and not some times??

 

[Y_lifter]

Without sharing how I feel about abortion

If there is nothing wrong with 1 abortion in your opinion,
why would her having 8 or 20 make a difference in how you feel ?

If she were on the pill she would have no pregnancies but could be having
sex 5 times a day.

So she wasn't using contraception and had lots of sex and therefore got pregnant.

 

[BrothaBill]

Re: OK, Abortion Question. I had a friend that married a woman he divorced and one of

lets see.. for some reason i think people should be able to justify it by seeing that most women in this position are in a reckless state there are troubled and confused and in order to get what they want they are willing to do some risk taking actions. like the good ol hanger up the vagina in hopes of killing or doing the abortion their selves. but the result maybe killing themselves and the baby. 2 deaths.. but the doctors sees this as helping. He is insuring the safety of one life. So i hope people really so see the risks of the non abortion. or the results that could come from this.

killing onesself accidentally during the course of taking another life would seem like equal justice to some.

The coathanger argument is a red herring put forth by feminazis in their drive to see as many abortions take place as possible to please their dark Lord Satan.

The example was not a he doctor but a "She" doctor for those that looked down on a woman for killing five fetuses but cannot say the same for different "female" who killed 5,000. IF its wrong in one case, it should be wrong in the other case, conversely, if its Ok in one case then its Ok in the other. Just trying to help people become intellectually honest about this.

And the procedure of having a fully viable full term baby partially outside the birth canal and they stick scissors into the back of the baby's head and evacuate the brain contents. A few inches away from out of the mother and its killed. IS that not wrong??
If yes that is wrong, as most would say, then at one point being partially born, *counting in hours* before being in that position would it have been ok to kill the baby??