Obama Lays-Out $1.5T in New Taxes

[mrplunkey]

We are the safest bet.

Like in a bar full of 300lb plumpers, the 250lb chick looks like a great catch.

 

[-SD-]

Teh deuce and a half chick looks good irregardless of proper surroundings

 

[redsamurai]

here's the problem..the wealthy in this country want everything cut that doesn't affect them. Corporate wellfare? uh uh, can't touch it...we're talking hundreds of millions if not billions in subsidies and other ways our govt. hands taxpayer money to business's. As long as none of those cuts are on the block...you will fucking pay up!! How does welfare for dirt poor people and benefits for teachers get demonized and put on the chopping block when govt. subsidies are not even mentioned? Everyone's talking about solyndra but if GE had gotten a 500m loan for a new energy project and it bombed hard...anyone think it would make the news? Bet your asshole it wouldn't.

 

[Mr. dB]

Under which president were taxes the highest?

Truman and Eisenhower.

 

[75th]

your right.. the us % is like 2 on a ayield andsome europe bonds are 35 + (something outrageous)

but this cant last forever there needs to be some kind of plan to get things back to a reasonable level.

Indeed - the point is that low information folks like. Think this is some pressing issue that is going to cause the downfall of the US next month. It's an issue that needs to be dealt with, but it's not as dire as said low information folks make it out to be.

 

[mrplunkey]

here's the problem..the wealthy in this country want everything cut that doesn't affect them. Corporate wellfare? uh uh, can't touch it...we're talking hundreds of millions if not billions in subsidies and other ways our govt. hands taxpayer money to business's. As long as none of those cuts are on the block...you will fucking pay up!! How does welfare for dirt poor people and benefits for teachers get demonized and put on the chopping block when govt. subsidies are not even mentioned? Everyone's talking about solyndra but if GE had gotten a 500m loan for a new energy project and it bombed hard...anyone think it would make the news? Bet your asshole it wouldn't.

1) There are plenty of upper income people against corporate welfare. I don't know of a single subsidy or hand-out I support.

2) GE is better connected than Solyndra. Instead of getting loan guarantees, GE goes straight for subsidies (google GE Wind).

3) The bigger problem with Solyndra is the widespread knowledge that the company was going to fail. They even told the WH when the specific month -- and sure enough, that's when it happened.

 

[redsamurai]

1) There are plenty of upper income people against corporate welfare. I don't know of a single subsidy or hand-out I support.

2) GE is better connected than Solyndra. Instead of getting loan guarantees, GE goes straight for subsidies (google GE Wind).

3) The bigger problem with Solyndra is the widespread knowledge that the company was going to fail. They even told the WH when the specific month -- and sure enough, that's when it happened.

No we agree on Solyndra, but you seem to think GE going after subsidies somehow exemps them...it doesn't. You're tripping again if you think GE wouldn't try to bury some politician if he stood up and said why are companies like GE recipients of a single U.S taxpayer dollar when they take jobs overseas and pay zero taxes all the while rolling in money? So in essence you are for corporate subsidies and either you don't know or won't admit it. I'll bet your own company has probably at the very least indirectly benefitted from govt expenditures...you manufacture health care equipment right? Prostetics and whatnot?

 

[redsamurai]

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2) GE is better connected than Solyndra. Instead of getting loan guarantees, GE goes straight for subsidies (google GE Wind).

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Not being "connected" shouldn't negate a company from getting help..it's about the idea. If being "connected" was all that ever mattered, which it pretty much is anyway, we'd have an even more stagnant market then we already do. In a really free market most of the companies, perhaps even GE, would have been forced to fold long time ago and the fresh new ideas injected into the market. That's the dirty little secret here ins't it? Quasi free market. So when we say "govt. needs to get smaller" i concur to a point, as long as we're talking about EVERYTHING and not just social netting. Our govt. has ruined our capitalist environment by propping up the old dinosaurs like maybe GE. Certainly the car companies and i think even you would agree with me on that. THe big three should have died decades ago.

 

[ledhead]

Truman and Eisenhower.

Wrong! Hoover raised the top bracket to 63% then FDR raised it to 70%. Actually, Roosevelt tried to raise the top bracket to 90% but Congress balked at that. The top bracket stayed at 70% through Truman's and Ike's administrations until JFK lowered the taxes back to 63%.

 

[mrplunkey]

No we agree on Solyndra, but you seem to think GE going after subsidies somehow exemps them...it doesn't. You're tripping again if you think GE wouldn't try to bury some politician if he stood up and said why are companies like GE recipients of a single U.S taxpayer dollar when they take jobs overseas and pay zero taxes all the while rolling in money? So in essence you are for corporate subsidies and either you don't know or won't admit it. I'll bet your own company has probably at the very least indirectly benefitted from govt expenditures...you manufacture health care equipment right? Prostetics and whatnot?

No, I completely object to what is happening with GE. I'm 100% against it, even as a former employee and current holder of their stock (but in all fairness, it's a very modest amount).