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NPP users speak up.

Useage= 800MG EW

Durtion= 6 weeks

Side Effects= Acne Testosterone gives me a pimple here and there

NPP over Deca is the way to go, I like shorter cycles (short esters) to run; not because I want to run 5+ cycles in a year, but longer cycles are harder to recover from. I do not know your cycle experience, but 400MG is sufficent if you allow yourself recovery time from the previous cycle Have a great cycle bro.
 
I have 400mg/wk of NPP and 700mg/wk of prop. and got tremendous results even at that dose.
I did the NPP at 100mg mon, tues, thurs, fri.
And the prop 100mg/ed
 
This cycle will be at least 14 weeks of prop. Thats not including the 5 initial weeks I ran it when it was supposed to be kickstarting the bunk gear I was running with it. But thats another story. So after two weeks off and a fresh batch of prop I'm now 8 days into it again. almost feel caught up.
I have been debating on what to add to the test to try. I was thinking 6 weeks of tren at 75-100mg eod. Or possibly 8 weeks of NPP 100mg eod then after the NPP is done, bumping my prop to 100mg ED.
Or running npp for 8 weeks with my prop, then prop only for a couple weeks, then tren for 6 weeks.

This was origionally supposed to be a test E/EQ cycle after the first kickstart. But since the gear was bunk, I turned it into a test cycle. To be run for a length of TBD. Not to sound irresponsible. I know exactly what I am doing. First cycle in 8 years. Others were mainly test only. Nothing will be taken without proper ancilliaries on hand, ect. Just kind-of going on body feel.
Theres a big noticable difference to me now running test at 33 then there was in my early mid 20's. More than just ok I feel a little wired maybe, and I'm building some muscle. Now all the other things that test really does for you are noticable. I feel really good. Sleep and mood are better, ect.ect. you know the story. So If I decide to go beyond my origional 14 weeks I will switch over to test E or C 5 or so weeks before I stop prop. If it turns into TRT eventually then so be it. I'm ok with that.
 
bigtravis said:
I have 400mg/wk of NPP and 700mg/wk of prop. and got tremendous results even at that dose.
I did the NPP at 100mg mon, tues, thurs, fri.
And the prop 100mg/ed
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Trav, any special reason you split the NPP like that? Was it just to make sure you were getting 400mg squeezed inside of one week? Instead of EOD where there really arent any "weeks"?
With prop I know you definatley dont want to go more than 48hrs between injects. But isnt the phenylprop ester just a bit longer than the prop ester? Like you could actually go 3 days and be good? Just a question though. I would definatley be going EOD. NOT E3D.
 
I took npp at approx 300-400mg/week and got best strength gains ever.
I didn't stack it with anything, maybe maintenance dose of test prop (100-200mg/week).
It's way faster than deca which makes it seem like a different compound.
You could even use it for 2-3 weeks along with deca to "frontload."
But as someone said faster esters are out of your body faster.
Longer esters maybe provide taper at end of cycle.
But npp is better (imo) than deca and it's my favorite.
 
bbkingpin said:
I took npp at approx 300-400mg/week and got best strength gains ever.
I didn't stack it with anything, maybe maintenance dose of test prop (100-200mg/week).
It's way faster than deca which makes it seem like a different compound.
You could even use it for 2-3 weeks along with deca to "frontload."
But as someone said faster esters are out of your body faster.
Longer esters maybe provide taper at end of cycle.
But npp is better (imo) than deca and it's my favorite.
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I agree. I love that stuff.
The reason I did the 400mg. in one week was just that reason. I didn't want to go over 400 on it each week. At 50mg/ed I would have been at 350 and at 75/ed I would have been at 525 so I decided to inj. only on those four days. But that compound is incredible. Especially along with test. prop. Bro. you will be impressed.
I agree with kingpin. But I ran it for a full 12 with the prop.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
yeah I do believe I will be adding some npp.:evil: . as soon as funds permit.
I read something last night that said npp is similar in "some" ways to tren? Anyone have any thoughts? Also hat most everyone else said too, that it "seems" like a totally different compound than deca.
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NPP and Deca are nandrolones, which makes them progestins

NPP and Deca are almost identical except for the esters (npp are shorter-acting esters)... detection time is the same for both... some claim less sides with NPP over Deca... I personally didn't see that


trenbolone is a derivative of nandrolone but it's far more androgenic
 
I really wanna give tren a go. But I am scared to death that it will Give me the "winstrol effect" on my joints. Most concerned with tendons.
Last time I tried it at a low dose the pumps were painful as hell. joints hurt for days after certain w/o's .
But I cant totally pin it on the tren cause I did have some joint(actually tendon) issues back then that were worse than I had realized at the time. Things are going very well now so I'm kinda holding my hands over my ears going lalalalala.....I dont hear you tren....:evil:
I know 6-8 weeks of tren would shred the fucking holy hell out of me too.......(sigh....)
 
njmuscleguy said:
NPP and Deca are nandrolones, which makes them progestins

NPP and Deca are almost identical except for the esters (npp are shorter-acting esters)... detection time is the same for both... some claim less sides with NPP over Deca... I personally didn't see that


trenbolone is a derivative of nandrolone but it's far more androgenic
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^^ right. I suppose those saying there were similarities were nandrolone aficionados.

The one thing I am hoping for with NPP is no "deca water weight". I assume Bromo would be sufficiant for NPP, just to have on hand.
 
i liked it at eod for 6 weeks. wanted to go longer but i went on vacation and not worth the hassle. strength was nice and i was still getting the pumps for like 6 mos after i was off. i liked it. never went deca so i cant compare
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
^^ right. I suppose those saying there were similarities were nandrolone aficionados.

The one thing I am hoping for with NPP is no "deca water weight". I assume Bromo would be sufficiant for NPP, just to have on hand.
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to be honest, I got every single side from NPP that I had gotten from Deca in the past!
 
njmuscleguy said:
to be honest, I got every single side from NPP that I had gotten from Deca in the past!
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The only side that really concerns me is gyno. I'm not prone to it with test but I've never used any nandrolone. I hope i'm the same with NPP.

What sides do you personally get from nandrolone?
 
I'm on it right now and running it at 600mg/wk. I think it's one of my new favorites. Iv'e never run deca so I can't compare them. Why deal with the bloat if you don't have to.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
The only side that really concerns me is gyno. I'm not prone to it with test but I've never used any nandrolone. I hope i'm the same with NPP.

What sides do you personally get from nandrolone?
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I got super-bloated... wasn't even defined muscle... lost most of it after I was done with it... deca dick was awful too... recovery was a bitch!
 
njmuscleguy said:
NPP and Deca are nandrolones, which makes them progestins

NPP and Deca are almost identical except for the esters (npp are shorter-acting esters)... detection time is the same for both... some claim less sides with NPP over Deca... I personally didn't see that


trenbolone is a derivative of nandrolone but it's far more androgenic
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Plus Like test prop NNP has less bloat than deca!

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
Plus Like test prop NNP has less bloat than deca!

RADAR
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not for me! I bloated just as much on NPP as on deca! :(
 
njmuscleguy said:
not for me! I bloated just as much on NPP as on deca! :(
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Thats probably the first bad review I have read on NPP. :biggrin:
Obviously everyone is different, but 99% of what I have read has been positive. Even guys that hate regular deca say that NPP is the shit.
I still may change my mind and run tren though.:evil:

Sucks that you got all bloated bro.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Thats probably the first bad review I have read on NPP. :biggrin:
Obviously everyone is different, but 99% of what I have read has been positive. Even guys that hate regular deca say that NPP is the shit.
I still may change my mind and run tren though.:evil:

Sucks that you got all bloated bro.
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everyone is different for sure bro...but I'm definitely not the only one who's had negative experience with NPP... I've been on here for a few years and heard the same from others...

I actually have some left-over...was considering using a VERY low dosage and see how that goes... especially after having read again that article that's been around for years, the one saying nandralones (200-250mg/wk) synthesize something like 200 +% collagen....anything more and it destroys it...we'll see
 
NPP is perhaps the most OVERRATED compound known.

Also WAAAAAY overpriced.

get the same if not better results by just breaking up your deca doses in the same way.
ie. 100 mgs eod or 3 times a week imho
 
OMEGA said:
it will only worst

hate tren with a passion
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I appreciate the thoughts Omega. I am making a decision in the morning and pulling the trigger. I came to the same conclusion. I think I'm just going to stick with test with running my prop till its gone and switching over to sust. Also thinking of just running 200mg of deca wk for 10 wks as kindof a HRT for my nagging elbow. Also I have never run deca so I know I will see gains from 200mgs.
 
OMEGA said:
if you want tren like results minus the sides

simply use Masteron. with Var ad a light tad of Deca
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The only thing that sucks is right now im sticking with more test because money is a little tight on the aas budget. I was thinking of masteron but I'm kinda scared it might aggravate my elbow. Most say they have no sides with joints from masteron but a few do. I dont wanna be one of the few. So i'm trying to play the "go with what ya know" game.
 
OMEGA said:
NPP is perhaps the most OVERRATED compound known.

Also WAAAAAY overpriced.

get the same if not better results by just breaking up your deca doses in the same way.
ie. 100 mgs eod or 3 times a week imho
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NPP is same as deca but works much faster and feels a lot more powerful -- strength increases much faster and more pronounced. You can get 300-400mg into your bloodstream and working in a week or so. The longer you're on deca the more suppressed you are and the longer the recovery.

Deca is the most popular drug aside from test. How can NPP, the same as deca, though more obscure (only popularized recently via UG labs), and faster acting, be most overrated if deca is most popular and it's the same base chemical (nandrolone)?

Not trying to flame you bro, just my thoughts.
 
no offense taken :)

I understand how NPP on paper is suppost to be better, but for people Like Nj and here,
it simply did not pan out into reality. NOT EVEN CLOSE

The gear was legit too ( Ret ) , so was surprised as nay one else how it just did not work as stated.
 
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