Nolva vs. Clomid post-cycle....is it better?

[bowling ball nutz]

This is quite the heated topic.... I think despite all the arguing, cases for both Nolv and Clomid can be made. However, it is still apparent they serve the same function- an anti-estrogen which, when used post-cycle, will stimulate the production of natural test since it blocks out conversion to estrogen. HCG would be a plus, but I don't think my nuts have atrophied enough during my 8 weeker to warrant it. Natural methods (avena, maca, trib, etc) should be enough I would think.

just lettin you know , clomid does work as a anti e, but there is a potential for a lot more side effects(acne,mood swings) than nolvadex of arimidex and these 2 work much better, and a lot of times clomid doesnt even work at all for some. I learned the hard way.

just lookin out for u man.

 

[Nighthawkk]

just lettin you know , clomid does work as a anti e, but there is a potential for a lot more side effects(acne,mood swings) than nolvadex of arimidex and these 2 work much better, and a lot of times clomid doesnt even work at all for some. I learned the hard way.

just lookin out for u man.

Word, thanks. I do have all of the above listed, so maybe a nolv/a-dex recovery mixed with a few natural herbs should be the way to go.

 

[jubei]

Satch are you trying to say that nolva and hcg won't work for post cycle therapy?

 

[meathead12]

Ok, with the HCG post the only thing you cleared up was that i may have mixed up the LH and the FSH in what they do.
More importantly though was the question in which you have yet to prove and are still wrong about is...Clomid and Nolvadex.
So are you still hiding from the fact that you cannot prove that Nolvadex even helps raise natural testosterone levels, while Clomid does. Yes, Clomid is a weak anti-estrogen, but its other affects are the reason that people use it post cycle.

And i don't care how many articles you pull up about anything from someone that nobody has ever heard of...especially one that doesnt say anything about Nolvadex.

And by the way you need to stop with this "get educated" garbage...if you want to post stats, pictures, and your educational background i'd love to compare.

 

[variation]

it's simple, clomid is trash.

Nolvadex is far superior for blocking estrogen.

time off recovers natural testosterone.

 

[satchboogie]

Satch are you trying to say that nolva and hcg won't work for post cycle therapy?

never said that.

acutally, nolva/hcg would be a good idea.
but clomid/hcg is still my preference.

 

[Doman55]

good thread bros

 

[jubei]

Satch, what kind of sides do you get from the clomid? If you use it with Hcg do you still "frontload"? I have just about everything under the sun so I'm trying to figure out what to take for post cycle therapy. I really don't want to deal with fucking acne.

 

[satchboogie]

slight acne is all i get from clomid.

no frontloading here.

post therapy:

week 1: clomid 100mg a day/ hcg 1500iu eod
week 2: clomid 50mg a day/ hcg 1500iu eod
week 3-4: clomid 50mg a day

 

[bowling ball nutz]

CLOMID SUCKS!!


there is a night and day difference between using clomid to come off vs. using arimidex or nolvadex

I couldnt even recover hpta from my very first cycle using clomid.