new to gh. please build me a cycle

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hey everyone, i used to be here alot. but ive been off this board for a few years now. anyway, to the point here.

ive decided to give GH a try. and the cycle i was planning on looked something like this

GH 3.3iu daily
test enanthate 1g-2g a week
d-bol 5 per day
deca, 600mg per week
insulin, build up to about 10iu per day


and i planned to do this all for about 10 weeks.

you guys see anything i should change, or anything i should add to it??

if it helps, im 5'4" 170ibs, so im a prety good size already, but i want to hit 200plus in the offseason. gonna try and compete close to 180ibs eventually.
and before anyone wants to lecture about the dangers of insulin, ive done it with a few cycles already. and i am well aware of the dangers associated. i want the full potential from this GH, so i have every intention of using insulin also.

 

[alltraps]

start the GH at 1iu for a few weeks then move to 2 and so on. if you start too high, or move up to fast, it will kill your joints and give you serious carpo tunnel. i would strongly suggest you run it longer then 10 weeks, maybe 36 at least

 

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start the GH at 1iu for a few weeks then move to 2 and so on. if you start too high, or move up to fast, it will kill your joints and give you serious carpo tunnel. i would strongly suggest you run it longer then 10 weeks, maybe 36 at least

ya i figured it would be hard on the joints, which is why i added the deca. but 2-3 weeks at 1iu should be good?? and then i can just move right up to 3.3iu??

also, i thought gh was virtually useless by itself?? so if i go off cycle after 10weeks, why keep takin the gh?? cause i really dont want to stay on test and what not for 36 weeks. thats just askin for trouble.

 

[BionicBC]

hey everyone, i used to be here alot. but ive been off this board for a few years now. anyway, to the point here.

ive decided to give GH a try. and the cycle i was planning on looked something like this

GH 3.3iu daily
test enanthate 1g-2g a week
d-bol 5 per day
deca, 600mg per week
insulin, build up to about 10iu per day


and i planned to do this all for about 10 weeks.

you guys see anything i should change, or anything i should add to it??

if it helps, im 5'4" 170ibs, so im a prety good size already, but i want to hit 200plus in the offseason. gonna try and compete close to 180ibs eventually.
and before anyone wants to lecture about the dangers of insulin, ive done it with a few cycles already. and i am well aware of the dangers associated. i want the full potential from this GH, so i have every intention of using insulin also.

I see many problems :with all this
1. Holy Shit, you weigh 170 lbss and you wanna run 1 to 2 GRAMS of test per week? Slow down there, killer... How about 250mgs twice a week, for a total off 500mgs.
2. GH ran for 10 weeks is gonna have practically no benefit. Smaller doses for long periods of time are more effective than higher doses for short periods of time.
3. 5 dbols per day? What kind of dbol, 5mg thais? 20mg ug caps? Be more specific...
4. Im not educated enough on insulin use..... sorry.
5. Keep deca dosage lower than your test dosage to avoid that deca dick everyones always so scared of. Im on a dbol/deca/test cycle right now, i weigh right at 200, and im only runnin 500mg enanthate & 400mg deca. At 170lbs you dont need more than that.
Bionic

 

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I see many problems :with all this
1. Holy Shit, you weigh 170 lbss and you wanna run 1 to 2 GRAMS of test per week? Slow down there, killer... How about 250mgs twice a week, for a total off 500mgs.
2. GH ran for 10 weeks is gonna have practically no benefit. Smaller doses for long periods of time are more effective than higher doses for short periods of time.
3. 5 dbols per day? What kind of dbol, 5mg thais? 20mg ug caps? Be more specific...
4. Im not educated enough on insulin use..... sorry.
5. Keep deca dosage lower than your test dosage to avoid that deca dick everyones always so scared of. Im on a dbol/deca/test cycle right now, i weigh right at 200, and im only runnin 500mg enanthate & 400mg deca. At 170lbs you dont need more than that.
Bionic

1. ive done a few cycles at 800-1000mg per week of test already. and yes im only 170ibs. but im prety short. not like im a skinny guy by any means
3. sorry, yes i meant 5mg thais, or british. whatever i get my hands on. but 5mg either way.
5.with my test bein double my deca. im sure deca dick would not be a problem(never had that problem before anyway)
and everyone responds different to different doses, although u may respond very well to small dose. doesnt mean i do too.

thanx for the input.

 

[BionicBC]

1. ive done a few cycles at 800-1000mg per week of test already. and yes im only 170ibs. but im prety short. not like im a skinny guy by any means
3. sorry, yes i meant 5mg thais, or british. whatever i get my hands on. but 5mg either way.
5.with my test bein double my deca. im sure deca dick would not be a problem(never had that problem before anyway)
and everyone responds different to different doses, although u may respond very well to small dose. doesnt mean i do too.

thanx for the input.

Umm... wheres a mod when you need em-somebody back me up on this. Im not sayin you havent used 800-1000mgs before, but if youre short, and 170lbs, and have ran a couple of 1 gram test per week cycles before, something is wrong with your gear, or your a freak of nature. You cant run 2 grams of test with 600mg deca for extended periods of time and stay at 170. Unless you started at about 85lbs.
PS-its not a matter so much of what your body responds to and mine doesnt-the fact is at 170lbs, your body just doesnt need 1 to 2 grams of test a week, plain and simple.

 

[alltraps]

dude relax. everyone is different. not everyone can gain of small doses. i wish i could, but i cant. if i dont run 3+ grams of gear, i dont grow, simple as that.

as far as staying on after your cycle, it may be a good idea at leat for pct. it will keep you a bit anabolic. when i used it, i started at 2iu and bumped it up by 1iu every few days, by the second week, i couldnt lift weights cuz i had seious problems with my wrists. deca wont help. just take it slow.

 

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Umm... wheres a mod when you need em-somebody back me up on this. Im not sayin you havent used 800-1000mgs before, but if youre short, and 170lbs, and have ran a couple of 1 gram test per week cycles before, something is wrong with your gear, or your a freak of nature. You cant run 2 grams of test with 600mg deca for extended periods of time and stay at 170. Unless you started at about 85lbs.
PS-its not a matter so much of what your body responds to and mine doesnt-the fact is at 170lbs, your body just doesnt need 1 to 2 grams of test a week, plain and simple.

the thing is i pounded on the weight till i hit 170. now im kinda stuck. and not to mention, ive been off and on in the gym over the last year and a half now, due to work and other things. but im back intot hings full swing now.

 

[pump it]

dude relax. everyone is different. not everyone can gain of small doses. i wish i could, but i cant. if i dont run 3+ grams of gear, i dont grow, simple as that.

as far as staying on after your cycle, it may be a good idea at leat for pct. it will keep you a bit anabolic. when i used it, i started at 2iu and bumped it up by 1iu every few days, by the second week, i couldnt lift weights cuz i had seious problems with my wrists. deca wont help. just take it slow.

ya thats no problem, i dont think ill be runnin up to real high gh doses anyway. so probably run 1iu a day for the first week. and werk myself up to 3.3 per day. but what about stayin on insulin off cycle too?? or should i just stick with the gh off cycle??

 

[HGH man]

Back to the drawing board. I read that your 22 or 23 ,I'm I right ? First of all if your going to run HGH for 10 weeks ,that's it ? I suggest don't run it at all. Your too young. It's just that simple. HGH won't do squat for you .Especially for 10 weeks. 600mgs of Deca ? I stick to 400mg . Rule of thumb is to do twice your body weight in Deca:200# do 400mgs . Insulin is a touchy subject . Do you know anything about it at all? If you do ,fine . Run it . Test entanate ,I'd run 500mgs a week. Did I ruin your evening? If your doing Deca and bulking up ,I'd work with the heavest weight you can handle correctly.