New Guy Needing Direction/Suggestions

[smc0514]

New guy here looking to start with a cut phase so as to shed about 10-12%bf (15-18lbs). Anyone want to provide suggestions or direction on the, lets say, top three products to use and/or particular stacks. If there's a bulking product that also serves well for cutting, I'd be cool with those suggestions too.

Something to consider when making recommendations: I don't do well with ephedra or caffeine based products... they tend to have an opposite effect on me in that after a couple days use, I'm like a zombie.... they completely drain my physical & mental energy along with all backup reserves. I usually takes me a couple days to recoup from using such products. I share this, before reading up, since I'm not sure how various recommended drugs will work.

A little info on me: 5'7", 30w, 41chest, 14bi, about 18-19%bf, slow to moderate metabolism, resting heart rate of 48bpm, not sure what other info is needed to make recommendations... feel free to ask, otherwise thanks in advance for directions/recommendations on what top three products to read up on.

Thanks,
Shawn in Richmond, VA
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[Nelson Montana]

3 best Non stumulative supps for fat loss?

7 Keto DHEA
Tyrosine
Kelp

3 best procedures for fat loss?

Less Food
Lifting weights
Walk or ride a bike instead of taking a car as much as possible.

 

[JG1]

3 best Non stumulative supps for fat loss?

7 Keto DHEA
Tyrosine
Kelp

Can you explain how these help with fat loss? The 7 keto...helps with the thyroid, correct?

 

[solidspine]

Have you tried Clen?


Aside from clen or DNP

the best cutting cycle I have used and will use again this summer is:

Fina
Winny
Deca
Test,


Low carb diet, extra cardio.

 

[smc0514]

Thanks SolidSpine... I've not tried anything yet as I am new on the scene. Going natural as Nelson Montana suggested is good, but I've already tried good, I'm now looking for the "better". I'll read up on Clem, along with the other four you mentioned having used yourself.

Thanks Again!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Can you explain how these help with fat loss? The 7 keto...helps with the thyroid, correct?

................

Yep, they all stimulate the throid.

solidspine: Deca for fat loss? Even if it did burn fat (which it doesn't) it'll leave you so bloated you wouldn't know it.

 

[solidspine]

For me the key here is to simply lower my BF%, and that infers you are going to cut calories, cut carbs, increase your cardio and yes weight will be lost. But again you don’t want to lose muscle.

DNP on it’s own will cut muscle and fat. Clen is less pronounced. But I still like to take a mild anabolic when cutting for Maintance of muscle.

Primo is great for that purpose.

 

[satchboogie]

its a shame you dont like efedrine as i'm a strong believer that its the best fat burner out there.

 

[satchboogie]

NELSON...

outta curiosity.. why do you not like dnp?

i've never used it and dont plan on it either, but many report awesome fat loss while on dnp.

 

[Nelson Montana]

If ephedra gave you trouble, Clen will make your head explode.

I feel DNP should not even be discussed on these boards. You might as well recommend heroin.