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[chris69]

O-K , Im New to this game but have decided to use some roids.I'm 32 and hav not used anything since i was 23,and at that time i was even more ignorant and used sustinon 250. I'm dead set on Dianabol,but need to take another oral to stack.
(no needles)
I have read alot about Andiol & Winstol,but diff sites have diff info and compares these.The lbs gained show the same, but winstrol hase double the strength & fat loss.....what does this mean,also winstrol has double the side affects. Does anybody have a oral stack that has worked well.Lastly, how about NOLVADEX, some say stack it, some say post, and can you get away with using just that,or do you need clomid ect...also?

 

[hyp1]

O-K , Im New to this game but have decided to use some steroids.I'm 32 and hav not used anything since i was 23,and at that time i was even more ignorant and used sustinon 250. I'm dead set on Dianabol,but need to take another oral to stack.
(no needles)
I have read alot about Andiol & Winstol,but diff sites have diff info and compares these.The lbs gained show the same, but winstrol hase double the strength & fat loss.....what does this mean,also winstrol has double the side affects. Does anybody have a oral stack that has worked well.Lastly, how about NOLVADEX, some say stack it, some say post, and can you get away with using just that,or do you need clomid ect...also?

why are you not into injecting?you do know that the gains from injectable testosterone are much easier to keep than any oral cycle don't you?and it's less hard on your liver.if you're scared of needles then you don't have any business using gear at all,why you ask?because a decent post cycle therapy consists of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - injected for 10 days straight,along with taking nolvadex and clomid.if you're not willing to do a proper post cycle therapy you're not going to keep much of your gains at all,and in essence you're just wasting your time.

wtf is andiol?if you're referring to anadrol it's seriously powerful,too powerful for most people because of headaches,extreme water retention and acne it induces.I don't know where the hell you're getting your information about winstrol increasing strength and causing fat loss,but the strength part is seriously wrong.

You desperately need to educate yourself on post cycle therapy,and proper steroid cycles and profiles.

best of luck to you

 

[needtogetaas]

why are you not into injecting?you do know that the gains from injectable testosterone are much easier to keep than any oral cycle don't you?and it's less hard on your liver.if you're scared of needles then you don't have any business using gear at all,why you ask?because a decent post cycle therapy consists of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - injected for 10 days straight,along with taking nolvadex and clomid.if you're not willing to do a proper post cycle therapy you're not going to keep much of your gains at all,and in essence you're just wasting your time.

wtf is andiol?if you're referring to anadrol it's seriously powerful,too powerful for most people because of headaches,extreme water retention and acne it induces.I don't know where the hell you're getting your information about winstrol increasing strength and causing fat loss,but the strength part is seriously wrong.

You desperately need to educate yourself on post cycle therapy,and proper steroid cycles and profiles.

best of luck to you

what he said bro and I think almost every one here would say the same.

 

[chris69]

why are you not into injecting?you do know that the gains from injectable testosterone are much easier to keep than any oral cycle don't you?and it's less hard on your liver.if you're scared of needles then you don't have any business using gear at all,why you ask?because a decent post cycle therapy consists of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - injected for 10 days straight,along with taking nolvadex and clomid.if you're not willing to do a proper post cycle therapy you're not going to keep much of your gains at all,and in essence you're just wasting your time.

wtf is andiol?if you're referring to anadrol it's seriously powerful,too powerful for most people because of headaches,extreme water retention and acne it induces.I don't know where the hell you're getting your information about winstrol increasing strength and causing fat loss,but the strength part is seriously wrong.

You desperately need to educate yourself on post cycle therapy,and proper steroid cycles and profiles.

best of luck to you

<Reply> Thank you. Sorry about my type-o, it's Andriol & winstrol that i was refering to for stacking with the other (17aa steroid-in this case Dianabol) . Side effect & toxcity are said to be less.Yes i know the needle thing is silly.(after all I have tattoo's) As far as the info about gains ect.. there is a chart on several sites comparing these anabolics.(steroid.com) for one.This is what I have for info without narrowing it down threw experiance. So anything on this if im pigheaded about oral ?

 

[thebadguy54]

why are you not into injecting?you do know that the gains from injectable testosterone are much easier to keep than any oral cycle don't you?and it's less hard on your liver.if you're scared of needles then you don't have any business using gear at all,why you ask?because a decent post cycle therapy consists of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - injected for 10 days straight,along with taking nolvadex and clomid.if you're not willing to do a proper post cycle therapy you're not going to keep much of your gains at all,and in essence you're just wasting your time.

wtf is andiol?if you're referring to anadrol it's seriously powerful,too powerful for most people because of headaches,extreme water retention and acne it induces.I don't know where the hell you're getting your information about winstrol increasing strength and causing fat loss,but the strength part is seriously wrong.

You desperately need to educate yourself on post cycle therapy,and proper steroid cycles and profiles.

best of luck to you

Great post Hyp1. I couldn't agree more.

ALL ORAL CYCLES ARE G A Y

 

[702daswoll1]

Andriol is not absorbed well at all. Go get some creatine and some pro-hormones bro.. Grow some testicles and get back to us in a bit.

 

[hyp1]

<Reply> Thank you. Sorry about my type-o, it's Andriol & winstrol that i was refering to for stacking with the other (17 alpha-alkylated steroid-in this case Dianabol) . Side effect & toxcity are said to be less.Yes i know the needle thing is silly.(after all I have tattoo's) As far as the info about gains ect.. there is a chart on several sites comparing these anabolics.(steroid.com) for one.This is what I have for info without narrowing it down threw experiance. So anything on this if im pigheaded about oral ?

andriol is yet another 17 alpha-alkylated steroid(which stresses the hell out of your liver),reading up on it I see that it's probably a poor buy because it has such a mild effect its high price and required high daily dosages usually causes it to be avoided when crossing it on the black market.why use this shit when an injectable testosterone and other options are so cheap ,effective and readily available bro?

stacking 17 alpha-alkylated steroids isn't a good idea in my opinion,especially if you're fond of your liver.stop looking for a 'quick fix'(popping pills to get big),take responsibility and build a proper cycle....instead of needlessly damaging your liver,bro.no offense,but yeah being.....pigheaded to an extent.......using your words.........LOL

again,bro
hang out here,educate yourself and absorb information like a sponge
it can only help you in the long run

 

[chris69]

Andriol is not absorbed well at all. Go get some creatine and some pro-hormones bro.. Grow some testicles and get back to us in a bit.

As for the orals being "GAY" I was unaware.I don't need to turn queer,just want better results, as far as My Balls are concerned,there big enough thank you.The first reply i apreciate. I guess if i learned properly, injections would be fine,And it seems to be the best way after your jump start w/ oral.
It's not the shot itself, but the formality of how to do injections that bothers me, I would want to do it correctly. I have no clue about nursing , or any other "gay" careers. I'm glad i found your site and joined. I would think it is For anybody interested, or needing insight from other body builders. I have been training for over 10 yrs myself naturally.

 

[chris69]

andriol is yet another 17 alpha-alkylated steroid(which stresses the hell out of your liver),reading up on it I see that it's probably a poor buy because it has such a mild effect its high price and required high daily dosages usually causes it to be avoided when crossing it on the black market.why use this shit when an injectable testosterone and other options are so cheap ,effective and readily available bro?

stacking 17 alpha-alkylated steroids isn't a good idea in my opinion,especially if you're fond of your liver.stop looking for a 'quick fix'(popping pills to get big),take responsibility and build a proper cycle....instead of needlessly damaging your liver,bro.no offense,but yeah being.....pigheaded to an extent.......using your words.........LOL

again,bro
hang out here,educate yourself and absorb information like a sponge
it can only help you in the long run

HYPL--Great info,I am going to do just that,take my time and soak it up.Yes you are correct,the injection is the best way as proven by many of you,so this is what i will re-search.
To put it all together,there doesnt seem to be a way to stack two 17aa together and get good long term(safe) results. Thanks Bro !

 

[702daswoll1]

Just giving you a hard time bro.. It is all good.. Hyp has some good info for you.. Take his advice.