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Get some blood work done first so you know what your natty levels are. If you don't know what they are and you start playing around with chemicals in your body there is the potential you will never know what normal is again.
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nemesis 2027
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thebadguy54 said:I love you too man.
Damn bro, you're in danger of being a "goodguy".. lol
For the record, I love you too man, but we're not GAY!!!
wow, so i guess here we are all pros? all of us follow intense cycles, have never asked new questions, and let me guess we are all national contenders? doubtful... to say everyone here would say dont do an oral cycle is pure bullshit. we all have different goals, different fears, and the likes. facts are my "bodybuilding career" has been filled with oral only cycles as well as oil only cycles, as well as water based cycles only. each had a purpose, and at the time i was unwilling to pump myself full of steriods. my oral only d bol cycle was a russian d bol cycle and i took between 4-7 pills a day. these were the real d bol tabs 5mg that puts any UG b dol 25, 50 ect to shame and i gained weight and size quicker then ANY cycle I ever did in my " bodybuilding career" and the only sides i had were acne, water, and increased blood pressure. i had no pin pain, no missed injections, no issue with scar tissue and the likes... facts were until i found these boards did i learn about "other cycles and compounds" but in all of my years competing and yes i competed and on a national stage my cyclse were all different and oral onlys were part of this and i gained, and i kept my gains as i worked hard, ate like a pig, and lived the sport. as you move on and want to go on a national stage you experiment with harder cycles but give the guy a break and i truly wonder how the advise you even give is actual off reading boards or living the sport there is a difference.
nemesis 2027
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flexed1 said:
This is what I'm talking about, just can't say all that you did without the experience to back it up.. Not jumping on your bandwagon, but totally agree with your statement. Great info.
lol, ok... go stack your 3 liver toxic steroids together and have a great cycle. I never said I was "Tuff" but atleast I can stick a needle in my ass when wanting to anabolic androgenic steroids cycle.
If anything should be "important" to you it should be your health (not bodybuilding), so research before you take a SHIT cycle & learn about post cycle treatment.
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NEM, I dont know about everyones individual problems on this bored, 90% was simply a number; however, every person I know of wants to do an "oral only" first cycle is because they are scared of needles. IMO you arent ready to do steroids yet. period.
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flexed: I am no way saying oral only cycles arent or shouldn't be used, my comments were directed towards a "first cycle" "newb" not someone who competes & lives the lifestyle.
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chris69
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GAUDY said:
Well I got the info that i needed,Didn't mean to cause a battle,LOL,.
For some reason people answer the questions like they take it personal.Take your game personal,not mine.I Did ask for advice,so if you can give it great,reply with honesty,and without sarcasm. For thoughs with all that good info, i Added you,hope i can ask ???'s when im up on more research, for the others, go to MYSPACE and join the debate chat !lolololol
the man enough quote is something typically used in bodybuilding...
Why dont you want to run needles? shooting twice a week isn't bad at all, do a nice simple test cycle and you'll enjoy the results far more than doing an oral cycle.
By the end of my 4 week dbol kick start (including test) I was getting headaches, gained a lot of weight, cardio was terrible (felt like i was breathing thing air), and pumps were getting painful. I'm in the middle of week 6 out of 12 and loving it. gains are greath, strength is up, feel great. etc...
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hey needto didnt you post up another thread about "why are oral only cycles so bad?" I know I am miss quoting what the actual thread was titled.
I have a hard time with people say oral onlys are bad. If you do it for short bursts and with proper PCT you should keep a lot fo gains. by alot I mean at least half give or take 10%. Lets say you gain 20lbs and lose 60% of this even with proper PCT that still roughly 8 lbs lets say you only keep 4 lbs of that because the other 16lbs is water that is still 4 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.
maybe I see things differently, but why is it ok to use orals as a kick starter for 4 weeks and it is considered "safe" as long as you use injectables?
I have a hard time with people say oral onlys are bad. If you do it for short bursts and with proper PCT you should keep a lot fo gains. by alot I mean at least half give or take 10%. Lets say you gain 20lbs and lose 60% of this even with proper PCT that still roughly 8 lbs lets say you only keep 4 lbs of that because the other 16lbs is water that is still 4 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks.
maybe I see things differently, but why is it ok to use orals as a kick starter for 4 weeks and it is considered "safe" as long as you use injectables?
nemesis 2027
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GAUDY said:
Thank you for your superfluous opinion regarding my readiness for steroids. I'll give it all the consideration it's worthy of..
Pat_McCrotch
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nemesis 2027 said:Great post badguy, not..I mean the vets are trying to educate this guy, and your under educated, ignorant comment about "all oral cycles are gay" is not helping.
I am not disagreeing with the vets here, but while not the preferred method, ceratin oral cycles when done correctly and with the appropriate goals can be worthwhile. It's like so many other posts have concluded: It depends on the individual's goals.
I just got off a short 4 week (first time) oral cycle, had reasonable goals, and all went well. (rocky start however) My strength increased, appetite improved, and I was able to lose 2 lbs first and then gain back 7 solid lbs. Lost only 1 lb. since. Just the reasonable improvement in strength alone allowed me to break a plateau, gain more real muscle and move forward after years of road blocks.
Will I eventually move to the next level of injectable Test, etc.. Yes. But I am working on that medically first with the Dr. If he doesn't cooperate, 'I'll do as they do in Rome'. But until that time I have been satisfied with my results, and plan one more oral with V.ar and Dermacrine. I can assure you I am not gay. Please think before you type.
Good post bro
