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Mr.X
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tbh that diet looks almost exactly the same as what ive been doing before, except that youve subbed the rice cakes for 20g more of protein in my shake and upped the fat intake quite a bit (two tbsps of flax). Are these changes really going to make all that difference? I know you said i was starving myself, but it seems like the calorie intake is identical, and that the carbs have only been reduced by a tiny amount.
it is NOT alike from you last diet...your last diet was a good way to starve you........
I forgot to add to this:
POST WORKOUT SHAKE (RIGHT AFTER WORKOUT)
30g dextrose
40g protein
5g creatine
A few questions for you if you dont mind-
1)
8.00am: i dont like oatmeal all that much, i will eat it if i have to, but can i switch it up with weetabix, cereal etc every few days?
stick to oatmeal, or some OTHER FIBEROUS carbohydrate
like BEANS etc...
1.00pm: i like tuna, but the thought of eating it every day.... shall i do this, or shall i mix it up? what alternatives could i have in my sandwich? Shall i leave the olive oil spread here or cut it?
drop the oil spread, follow what I wrote...
you can switch the tuna up for 6-8oz. of salmon w/ the wheat bread and some veggies, but try to stick to the meal plan
7.00pm: I still live with my parents, so this meal is often decided for me :/ I could cook for myself but im a lazy bast! things i might have are-
chicken in low fat sauce with rice
spag bol
pork steaks with veg
chicken with veg
casserole etc
maybe you should reconsider dieting, if you cannot cook for yourself, nor have the motivation to do so then you might want to just stay the way you are....it's all up to you.......
the only thing I would eat on that menu is: Chicken w/ low fat sauce and rice/ chicken w/ veg
would it be ok to eat with the family say 4 days a week, then make myself chicken and salad the other 3 days?
you have to follow the diet; otherwise, your goals will become blurred and obviously unachievable
2)
What is psyllium husk fibre? im from the UK btw, so can i get this from a health food shop or something.
you can get it at the health food store.......
Just ask the people that work there for FIBER w/ no sugar in it
or online
www.beyond-a-century.com
3)
do you suggest any changes to my training plan or do you have a good plan that i could follow? i wouldnt mind completely changing things up. Perhaps some light CV in the morning a couple of times a week before work? or some jogging after weights? or another weights session? or a pure cv session at the gym (45 mins or so)?
********your workout********
S: chest and biceps
m: 45 mins 5-a-side soccer
t: shoulder and triceps
w: rest
t: back (inc deadlift)
f: rest
s: rest
******************
workout redone
S: Chest/Tri's/20min cardio post workout
m: Back, Bi's/20min cardio post workout
t: shoulders/abs/20min cardio post workout
w: rest
t: 45min cardio/morning low-intensity preffered
f: 45min cardio/morning low-intensity preffered
s: 20min cadio/HIGH-INTENSITY
4)
Any supplements you suggest I should take? atm i dont take anything. Perhaps multivits, creatine, glutamine? how about a fat burner? ive ordered some xenadrine to try.
you need a DAILY dose of Multi vitamins/minerals
you can use creatine...I would recommend getting R-ala
www.anabolicfitness.com (AF Store)
If you already ordered xenadrine, we can incorporate that into your diet when you get it
Mr.X
it is NOT alike from you last diet...your last diet was a good way to starve you........
I forgot to add to this:
POST WORKOUT SHAKE (RIGHT AFTER WORKOUT)
30g dextrose
40g protein
5g creatine
A few questions for you if you dont mind-
1)
8.00am: i dont like oatmeal all that much, i will eat it if i have to, but can i switch it up with weetabix, cereal etc every few days?
stick to oatmeal, or some OTHER FIBEROUS carbohydrate
like BEANS etc...
1.00pm: i like tuna, but the thought of eating it every day.... shall i do this, or shall i mix it up? what alternatives could i have in my sandwich? Shall i leave the olive oil spread here or cut it?
drop the oil spread, follow what I wrote...
you can switch the tuna up for 6-8oz. of salmon w/ the wheat bread and some veggies, but try to stick to the meal plan
7.00pm: I still live with my parents, so this meal is often decided for me :/ I could cook for myself but im a lazy bast! things i might have are-
chicken in low fat sauce with rice
spag bol
pork steaks with veg
chicken with veg
casserole etc
maybe you should reconsider dieting, if you cannot cook for yourself, nor have the motivation to do so then you might want to just stay the way you are....it's all up to you.......
the only thing I would eat on that menu is: Chicken w/ low fat sauce and rice/ chicken w/ veg
would it be ok to eat with the family say 4 days a week, then make myself chicken and salad the other 3 days?
you have to follow the diet; otherwise, your goals will become blurred and obviously unachievable
2)
What is psyllium husk fibre? im from the UK btw, so can i get this from a health food shop or something.
you can get it at the health food store.......
Just ask the people that work there for FIBER w/ no sugar in it
or online
www.beyond-a-century.com
3)
do you suggest any changes to my training plan or do you have a good plan that i could follow? i wouldnt mind completely changing things up. Perhaps some light CV in the morning a couple of times a week before work? or some jogging after weights? or another weights session? or a pure cv session at the gym (45 mins or so)?
********your workout********
S: chest and biceps
m: 45 mins 5-a-side soccer
t: shoulder and triceps
w: rest
t: back (inc deadlift)
f: rest
s: rest
******************
workout redone
S: Chest/Tri's/20min cardio post workout
m: Back, Bi's/20min cardio post workout
t: shoulders/abs/20min cardio post workout
w: rest
t: 45min cardio/morning low-intensity preffered
f: 45min cardio/morning low-intensity preffered
s: 20min cadio/HIGH-INTENSITY
4)
Any supplements you suggest I should take? atm i dont take anything. Perhaps multivits, creatine, glutamine? how about a fat burner? ive ordered some xenadrine to try.
you need a DAILY dose of Multi vitamins/minerals
you can use creatine...I would recommend getting R-ala
www.anabolicfitness.com (AF Store)
If you already ordered xenadrine, we can incorporate that into your diet when you get it
Mr.X
Hi Guys
thank you all for your advice and encouragement. Im starting tomorrow. After training tomorrow, im going on a BIG shopping spree, lots of veggies, chickens, multi vits....
Im going to follow mr x's diet plan, but i want to cycle things a bit. Please comment.....
8.00am: 1/2 cup oatmeal, 1 scoop protein (20g), 1 whole egg (boiled pref.)
Weetabix IS a fibrous carb source i think, so surely its OK to eat them?
10.30 am: 40g whey protein, 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil
1.00 pm: 1 sandwich: containing
1 can of tuna, and 2 slices wheat bread (wheat bread that contains at least 2g fiber/slice) + 1 small salad
I was thinking of cycling tuna, salmon, chicken here, ok?
3.30 pm: 40g protein (whey is fine), 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil
Training 5.30- 6.30 (sun, tue and thu)
7.00 pm: 6oz. chicken breast, 1 large salad w/ 1 tbsp. of olive oil
5g psyllium husk fiber
Here i wanted to alternate chicken and lean beef steak. Would that be ok?
9.00 pm:
20g protein shake
10 g psyllium husk
As regards training, i should have mentioned before that i cannot train on mondays, due to soccer. So im going to train like so-
S: Chest/Tri's/20min cardio post workout
m: 5-a-side 45 mins (very high intensity)
t: shoulders/abs/20min cardio post workout
w: rest
t: 45min cardio/morning low-intensity preffered (early morning)
f: Back, Bi's/20min cardio post workout
I will post my progress up in two weeks time, i want to lose a steady flow of 1-2lb a week of fat, i would say in total i want to lose around 10lbs, then once i am lean, i can go about building some bigger muscles
thank you all for your advice and encouragement. Im starting tomorrow. After training tomorrow, im going on a BIG shopping spree, lots of veggies, chickens, multi vits....
Im going to follow mr x's diet plan, but i want to cycle things a bit. Please comment.....
8.00am: 1/2 cup oatmeal, 1 scoop protein (20g), 1 whole egg (boiled pref.)
Weetabix IS a fibrous carb source i think, so surely its OK to eat them?
10.30 am: 40g whey protein, 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil
1.00 pm: 1 sandwich: containing
1 can of tuna, and 2 slices wheat bread (wheat bread that contains at least 2g fiber/slice) + 1 small salad
I was thinking of cycling tuna, salmon, chicken here, ok?
3.30 pm: 40g protein (whey is fine), 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil
Training 5.30- 6.30 (sun, tue and thu)
7.00 pm: 6oz. chicken breast, 1 large salad w/ 1 tbsp. of olive oil
5g psyllium husk fiber
Here i wanted to alternate chicken and lean beef steak. Would that be ok?
9.00 pm:
20g protein shake
10 g psyllium husk
As regards training, i should have mentioned before that i cannot train on mondays, due to soccer. So im going to train like so-
S: Chest/Tri's/20min cardio post workout
m: 5-a-side 45 mins (very high intensity)
t: shoulders/abs/20min cardio post workout
w: rest
t: 45min cardio/morning low-intensity preffered (early morning)
f: Back, Bi's/20min cardio post workout
I will post my progress up in two weeks time, i want to lose a steady flow of 1-2lb a week of fat, i would say in total i want to lose around 10lbs, then once i am lean, i can go about building some bigger muscles
M
Mr.X
Guest
Hi Guys
thank you all for your advice and encouragement. Im starting tomorrow. After training tomorrow, im going on a BIG shopping spree, lots of veggies, chickens, multi vits....
Im going to follow mr x's diet plan, but i want to cycle things a bit. Please comment.....
8.00am: 1/2 cup oatmeal, 1 scoop protein (20g), 1 whole egg (boiled pref.)
Weetabix IS a fibrous carb source i think, so surely its OK to eat them?
Yes, it is ok as long as it has close to the same values as oatmeal and NOT full of sugar
10.30 am: 40g whey protein, 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil
1.00 pm: 1 sandwich: containing
1 can of tuna, and 2 slices wheat bread (wheat bread that contains at least 2g fiber/slice) + 1 small salad
I was thinking of cycling tuna, salmon, chicken here, ok?
You can do that, as long as you use lean chicken you'll be fine
3.30 pm: 40g protein (whey is fine), 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil
Training 5.30- 6.30 (sun, tue and thu)
7.00 pm: 6oz. chicken breast, 1 large salad w/ 1 tbsp. of olive oil
5g psyllium husk fiber
Here i wanted to alternate chicken and lean beef steak. Would that be ok?
that would also be fine
9.00 pm:
20g protein shake
10 g psyllium husk
As regards training, i should have mentioned before that i cannot train on mondays, due to soccer. So im going to train like so-
S: Chest/Tri's/20min cardio post workout
m: 5-a-side 45 mins (very high intensity)
t: shoulders/abs/20min cardio post workout
w: rest
t: 45min cardio/morning low-intensity preffered (early morning)
f: Back, Bi's/20min cardio post workout
looks good, if you are in 2-4 week and you get tired a lot then you can drop THURSDAY cardio, for it might be a little overtraining
Mr.X
thank you all for your advice and encouragement. Im starting tomorrow. After training tomorrow, im going on a BIG shopping spree, lots of veggies, chickens, multi vits....
Im going to follow mr x's diet plan, but i want to cycle things a bit. Please comment.....
8.00am: 1/2 cup oatmeal, 1 scoop protein (20g), 1 whole egg (boiled pref.)
Weetabix IS a fibrous carb source i think, so surely its OK to eat them?
Yes, it is ok as long as it has close to the same values as oatmeal and NOT full of sugar
10.30 am: 40g whey protein, 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil
1.00 pm: 1 sandwich: containing
1 can of tuna, and 2 slices wheat bread (wheat bread that contains at least 2g fiber/slice) + 1 small salad
I was thinking of cycling tuna, salmon, chicken here, ok?
You can do that, as long as you use lean chicken you'll be fine
3.30 pm: 40g protein (whey is fine), 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil
Training 5.30- 6.30 (sun, tue and thu)
7.00 pm: 6oz. chicken breast, 1 large salad w/ 1 tbsp. of olive oil
5g psyllium husk fiber
Here i wanted to alternate chicken and lean beef steak. Would that be ok?
that would also be fine
9.00 pm:
20g protein shake
10 g psyllium husk
As regards training, i should have mentioned before that i cannot train on mondays, due to soccer. So im going to train like so-
S: Chest/Tri's/20min cardio post workout
m: 5-a-side 45 mins (very high intensity)
t: shoulders/abs/20min cardio post workout
w: rest
t: 45min cardio/morning low-intensity preffered (early morning)
f: Back, Bi's/20min cardio post workout
looks good, if you are in 2-4 week and you get tired a lot then you can drop THURSDAY cardio, for it might be a little overtraining
Mr.X
I just worked out the calorie content of my previous diet, and the one mr x is suggesting. Heres what i came up with-
bowl oatmeal 200
100ml juice 50
15g protein shake 60
2 rice cakes with marmite 100
two slices bread 150
olive oil spread 70
1 tin tuna 150
15g protein shake 60
2 rice cakes with marmite 100
Ordinary meal (meat and two veg) 600
10 g protein shake 40
TOTAL: 1580
bowl oatmeal 200
20g protein shake 80
egg 120
40g protein shake 150
tbsp flax oil 125
two slices bread 150
tin of tuna 150
small salad 50
40g protein shake 150
tbsp flax oil 125
chicken breast 200
large salad 100
20g protein shake 80
TOTAL: 1580
omg thats EXACTLY the same. So can some please explain WHY i was actually PUTTING on weight before?? not just a little weight, i was putting on 1kg per week. I used this calculator thing to work out how much calories my body needs-
http://www.room42.com/nutrition/basal.shtml
came up 1600. so i was in deficit (with all the exercise) but STILL put on weight. HOW is that possible? And can someone please explain, why this new diet, with exactly the same calories, will help me to lose weight.
to be honest, im convinced that in two weeks time, ill be posting on here again, complaining about how i now weigh > 11 stone.
MR X: how confident are you that if i follow the diet strictly, and train like i do, that i will lose weight? because im 90% certain i will just get fatter. Please can you explain it to me.
One more thing... these psyllium husk capsules. what are they for exactly? and the ones I have are 500mg- so i need to take 30 a day?? that cant be right surely :/
bowl oatmeal 200
100ml juice 50
15g protein shake 60
2 rice cakes with marmite 100
two slices bread 150
olive oil spread 70
1 tin tuna 150
15g protein shake 60
2 rice cakes with marmite 100
Ordinary meal (meat and two veg) 600
10 g protein shake 40
TOTAL: 1580
bowl oatmeal 200
20g protein shake 80
egg 120
40g protein shake 150
tbsp flax oil 125
two slices bread 150
tin of tuna 150
small salad 50
40g protein shake 150
tbsp flax oil 125
chicken breast 200
large salad 100
20g protein shake 80
TOTAL: 1580
omg thats EXACTLY the same. So can some please explain WHY i was actually PUTTING on weight before?? not just a little weight, i was putting on 1kg per week. I used this calculator thing to work out how much calories my body needs-
http://www.room42.com/nutrition/basal.shtml
came up 1600. so i was in deficit (with all the exercise) but STILL put on weight. HOW is that possible? And can someone please explain, why this new diet, with exactly the same calories, will help me to lose weight.
to be honest, im convinced that in two weeks time, ill be posting on here again, complaining about how i now weigh > 11 stone.
MR X: how confident are you that if i follow the diet strictly, and train like i do, that i will lose weight? because im 90% certain i will just get fatter. Please can you explain it to me.
One more thing... these psyllium husk capsules. what are they for exactly? and the ones I have are 500mg- so i need to take 30 a day?? that cant be right surely :/
M
Mr.X
Guest
omg thats EXACTLY the same.
I know, I set it up that way
So can some please explain WHY i was actually PUTTING on weight before??
it's because of the TYPE OF FOOD THAT YOU EAT and not just the calories
not just a little weight, i was putting on 1kg per week.
Yes, all those simple sugars and fats were not a GOOD idea were they
I used this calculator thing to work out how much calories my body needs-
http://www.room42.com/nutrition/basal.shtml
came up 1600. so i was in deficit (with all the exercise) but STILL put on weight.
that's because of the type of diet
HOW is that possible?
easy, you probably took in more calories then you wrote down and you were following a diet full of SIMPLE SUGARS and blunt mixes of food
And can someone please explain, why this new diet, with exactly the same calories, will help me to lose weight.
read above, it's not the calories it's they type of food (macroratios)
to be honest, im convinced that in two weeks time, ill be posting on here again, complaining about how i now weigh > 11 stone.
if you are w/ the new diet, then you would NOT be following it right
MR X: how confident are you that if i follow the diet strictly, and train like i do, that i will lose weight?
That's like asking if we can travel through time OR
Is there live in other universes.....
I can't guarantee you anything, for that is what you are looking for. All I can say is that if you're not losing bf w/ this diet you are probably experiencing a thyroid problem or are NOT following the diet right
because im 90% certain i will just get fatter. Please can you explain it to me.
read above
One more thing... these psyllium husk capsules. what are they for exactly?
psyllium husk is a powder...not capsule...if you take the capsule I would not recommend it, for it might have hidden carbs/cal in it...
and the ones I have are 500mg- so i need to take 30 a day?? that cant be right surely :/
Yes, you are correct; even if you use 10g fiber a day (10g=10,000mg) 500mg a pill=20pills
Mr.X
I know, I set it up that way
So can some please explain WHY i was actually PUTTING on weight before??
it's because of the TYPE OF FOOD THAT YOU EAT and not just the calories
not just a little weight, i was putting on 1kg per week.
Yes, all those simple sugars and fats were not a GOOD idea were they
I used this calculator thing to work out how much calories my body needs-
http://www.room42.com/nutrition/basal.shtml
came up 1600. so i was in deficit (with all the exercise) but STILL put on weight.
that's because of the type of diet
HOW is that possible?
easy, you probably took in more calories then you wrote down and you were following a diet full of SIMPLE SUGARS and blunt mixes of food
And can someone please explain, why this new diet, with exactly the same calories, will help me to lose weight.
read above, it's not the calories it's they type of food (macroratios)
to be honest, im convinced that in two weeks time, ill be posting on here again, complaining about how i now weigh > 11 stone.
if you are w/ the new diet, then you would NOT be following it right
MR X: how confident are you that if i follow the diet strictly, and train like i do, that i will lose weight?
That's like asking if we can travel through time OR
Is there live in other universes.....
I can't guarantee you anything, for that is what you are looking for. All I can say is that if you're not losing bf w/ this diet you are probably experiencing a thyroid problem or are NOT following the diet right
because im 90% certain i will just get fatter. Please can you explain it to me.
read above
One more thing... these psyllium husk capsules. what are they for exactly?
psyllium husk is a powder...not capsule...if you take the capsule I would not recommend it, for it might have hidden carbs/cal in it...
and the ones I have are 500mg- so i need to take 30 a day?? that cant be right surely :/
Yes, you are correct; even if you use 10g fiber a day (10g=10,000mg) 500mg a pill=20pills
Mr.X
I dont mean to sound cynical or ungrateful- im neither, its just im so frustrated that i put 100% effort into my diet and 100% into my training and I just keep getting fatter.
I posted on another forum about 5 weeks ago, and was given diet advice, but that got me absolutely nowhere.
Ill be following this diet TO THE LETTER, just like i followed the last diet TO THE LETTER. Now in two weeks, i should be seeing some results, or I will assume something is physically or medically wrong with me.
Im going to try and get some husk powder instead- taking 30 tablets a day is very expensive and time consuming.
Thanks for your help and advice.
I posted on another forum about 5 weeks ago, and was given diet advice, but that got me absolutely nowhere.
Ill be following this diet TO THE LETTER, just like i followed the last diet TO THE LETTER. Now in two weeks, i should be seeing some results, or I will assume something is physically or medically wrong with me.
Im going to try and get some husk powder instead- taking 30 tablets a day is very expensive and time consuming.
Thanks for your help and advice.
M
