New anabolic gyno reducer

[chimera83]

I am no chemist but I just spent a moment on the site and found a few problems, the site states "Studies show that small doses of the parent compound, Epitiostanol, at just 10-20mg/week showed a complete disappearance of the mass and pain in 25% of the male patients in the clinical trail, while the other 75% of the patients showed at least a 50% reduction in the mass and complete loss of pain in just 4-8 weeks. That’s results in 100% of the male users with no side effects. " but if you take a look around there are no references, and whats more interesting is that if you try looking for these "actual" studies from a search engine like google you won't find them.
If you do the same thing for compounds like nolvadex you will find actual studies, which were published, and this adds to their credibility.
Not saying that it wont work, just that I would like to see these studies and not simply be told by those who sell this product of the results of these studies.

 

[chimera83]

the site also states that epistane binds to the 17β-estradiol receptor protein in the target tissues. After opening a book and looking this up I found that the 17B estradiol is the most powerful estrogen and can convert or metabolize into estrone, which in turn can convert into 2ahydroxyestrone and/or 16a-hydroxyestrone (these are two other estrogens) So if the epistane binds to 17B-estradiol and this prevent the metabolization or conversion into the 17B estradiol then it should work as an anti estrogen. But as far as reducing prolactin gyno I dont figure this out (execpt if like letrozole by reducing estrogen it fights prolactin gyno) because estrogen is a promoter of prolactin release.
As I already stated above if anyone has a link to the "studies" that would be great

 

[Mr. Matt]

Hello Elite peoples, just joined today and came across this thread. I've never had gyno or anything but have been taking Epistane for a week now and strength has gone up a little and have put on about 3 pounds of solid mass. This is a methylated compound that supposedly has anti estrogen properties as well. Many are considering using it towards the end of a cycle to taper down into PCT. There are a few logs at IBE where people have claimed it to get rid of gyno completely. I have no idea if any of the gyno claims are true, but almost everything else I've read has been accurate with me so far. BTW so far my libido has been VERY high while taking this.

 

[ben dovergurl]

which do you guys think to be more effective for combating existing gyno, epistane or letro? we need some more who have tried epistane....<is that pronounced "a piss stain"?

 

[medrep]

....<is that pronounced "a piss stain"?

LOL I was saying it "eh piss stain"

 

[Anthony Roberts]

It would be nice to have macro or ulter discuss this wouldn't it? With the exception of needto.....everyone pumping this product has like less than 10 posts here, and one guy whom it's done nothing for. Not banking on it or anything, but this is where we need in house chemists, ie. really smart mother fuckers, to look into it. And not just one guy, but many.........that's what made this board in the first place.

More likely than not, the people promoting it work for the company who produces it. Ulter and Macro would likely just say "use AIFM instead".

Lets be realistic about what's going on here and what has gone on in the past.

 

[ben dovergurl]

which do you guys think to be more effective for combating existing gyno, epistane or letro? we need some more who have tried epistane....<is that pronounced "a piss stain"?

ba-bump

 

[genman]

More likely than not, the people promoting it work for the company who produces it. Ulter and Macro would likely just say "use AIFM instead".

Lets be realistic about what's going on here and what has gone on in the past.

AR is right on both accounts. Take everything with a grain of salt, realizing that those touting have a vested interest.

Needto came up with the only unbiased information. Nothing has been substantiated by credible posters. Time will tell.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

AR is right on both accounts. Take everything with a grain of salt, realizing that those touting have a vested interest.

Needto came up with the only unbiased information. Nothing has been substantiated by credible posters. Time will tell.

Honestly, it's the reason I very rarely promote my own nutritional products here anymore, or my books. The well has been poisoned by people in the past who answered "buy my product" to every thread.

I think my stuff is good, but I don't want to be seen like those people were...

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Lots of good bros at AM have had the same results.

Funny how lots of bros on boards sponsored by the makers of the product often get good results from it...