never ever using tren again

[igomad]

this is some nasty stuff. 3 weeks have passed since I added tren into my test cycle.

Bloodwork before:

HDL chol. = 0,8 L
LDL chol. = 1,6 L
Triglyc. = 0,4 L
total chol = 2,8 L
Progesterone = 0,48


Bloodwork after 3 weeks tren @ 50mg ED

HDL chol. = 0,2
LDL chol. = 3,4
Triglyc. = 1,5
Progesterone = 5,9

I was using prami and stane since i started the damn cycle.
just wanted to let you know. Maybe a second or a third thought before using tren would be good.

I'll dump tren immediately and start 4iu HGH + some GHRP-6 ED to help my cholesterol levels come back to healthy like they always were! No matter how much test I used. Most cycles I've had so far were pharm grade test at high doses only or some masteron added in for hardness but nothing else.

 

[igomad]

However i'm in contest prep and would need something to harden me up a bit more.
I was thinking primo? never used it before. Some insight from experienced users would be very helpful. Does it effect cholesterol levels and joints? I have some joints issues too, can't really squat anymore because of my bad knee which only got worse since i've started this cycle

 

[stevesmi]

i'm not gonna defend tren but if you run most AAS even the mild ones you will scare yourself running bloods during cycle.

and thats why i always recommend guys not mess with tren unless they are in top shape and keep dosages conservative.

as far as contest prep mast prop will harden you up bigtime and sides are low.

for your joint problems have you tried upping your omega's? fish oils?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Tren is, to me, the opposite of bodybuilding. It's a trade off of fast results but you damage your body in the process.

 

[ConanX]

What kind of prami are you using? Rumor has it that the liquid ones are not stable and really aren't effective. I'm using cabergoline pills and, though I haven't had progesterone checked with a lab, I am not having any progesterone related side affects.

Sucks bro, don't know what to tell you. I think maybe your prami is bunk or you should switch to caber and get a pill form, not liquid. Otherwise high dose hgh, test, primo, eq, var, winny, masteron. Those compounds will all help you harden up. Tren to me is the creme of the crop but you've been doing fine without the tren for all this time so you might do fine. Best of luck in your future competitions!

 

[igomad]

prami seems to be legit since my prolactin is super low! but progesterone won't move.

Nelson Montana, well said. I bow down to you bro.

@steve yes I'm taking in 30 grams of super strength fish oil every day no matter if its on cycle or off or whatever. I always put health on the 1st place.
I've been juicing for years and I was always very healthy, way more than the average couch potato. no BP issues, cholesterol, liver or anything else.

As i've said i will be adding in some HGH to help my joints and I will also start taking some glucosamine on a daily basis.

 

[C0LUMB0]

tren can be a rough ride for sure.... primo and var should harden you up .
i usually run mast with tren and prop, i cant really say what mast will bring to the party on its own.

 

[Judo Tom]

what was your dosage?

IM glad you made the change!!!

 

[peejae]

I heard that gw501516 can help with cholesterol levels. I am currently taking gw. I haven't done any labs while on it, but the stuff is great for endurance. I don't know how it will effect your contest prep either, but hey I'm just throwing that out there from the research that I have done. I will be doing labs in a month. I will then see how it's affecting my cholesterol.

 

[SWOLNUTZ]

Yeah I heard the same thing that "conanx" mentioned, that prami in liquid solution is generally not stable. However, I bet it's just a matter of finding the correct solution with the correct pH to store it in. If you got it from a lab that has real chemists working there, they'll know how to properly prepare it in solution. But looks to me as if from your prolactin test, then you're good to go with the prami you had.

If you want to harden up, any high androgen AAS (that doesn't aromatize) will suffice. For orals, Proviron is good. Good luck