Nelson Montana - what causes 'Roid gut?

[Peyomp]

Everyone has visceral fat...the amounts vary however...and the less, the better.

Pardon me: excessive amounts.

 

[sermon_of_crockery]

I thought that your body's ratio of subcutaneous:visceral fat was genetic.

Like no matter how much you diet for every 1g of fat you lose you will lose .3g of subcutaneous fat and .7g of visceral fat (for example).

maybe once you go to the super low levels and back several times you skew that ratio towards keeping visceral fat.

 

[Bulldog_10]

...visceral fat is normally easier to lose...

I'm pretty sure visceral fat is harder to lose...or that's what I've heard at least...and it seems logical that the body would want to keep that fat, as opposed to its subcutaneous fat

 

[Doktor Bollix]

I'm pretty sure visceral fat is harder to lose...or that's what I've heard at least...and it seems logical that the body would want to keep that fat, as opposed to its subcutaneous fat

Maybe. I don't understand it well and it's intertwined with too many issues. Everyone has visceral fat, but it's a fat deposition pattern we're talking about. Most people when they lose fat don't leave a huge distended belly behind.

Along with the big organs and all, I bet those big guts are like a buffalo hump, full of lard, and that's a reaction to stress on the body.

Maybe the extreme bulk/cut repeat regimen causes it for the above reasons. The old timers didn't cut to today's standards and didn't bulk the same way either.

There's a well known link to deposition of visceral fat and high cortisol levels. One of the ways stress = heart attack. Bodybuilders spend a lot of time with elevated cortisol levels. You can drive your cortisol levels through the roof and mask the effects with steroids but these reactions are still triggered. That might be another part of the jigsaw.

Once you begin accumulating stress related visceral fat from whatever stress, your visceral fat is not just a symptom, it's an active player in promoting heart disease and insulin resistance. That's not speculation.

One more reason why I wouldn't want to look like Ronnie Coleman

 

[Tarheel]

The test for visceral fat I read on some web-MDish website is to flex your abs, and if they stick out... you got it.

Interesting.

I have never done any AAS, insulin, GH, etc etc. I have never been on a cutting cycle in my life, although untill I started lifting weights I was always "underweight" for my height/age.

My abdominal wall sticks out when I flex, but I always train abs heavy with weights and sets of around 10 reps. Plus I stuff large amounts of food in so that might have something to do with the slight destension as well.