needtogetaas
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That was only my opinion, im not a big fan of 25 ingredients in a mix.
The other thing about AICAr and GW being used together i havent seen, and if it could be bought in bulk, and dosed correctly in a product, it would be certainly interesting to test.
If used together the synergy would be interesting.
Ive seen a lot of shawns work and he knows his stuff, if he is putting his name to something then he must feel it has potential.
I would like to see more, and see some studies on these 2 compounds used together, but thankyou for this interesting thread, it gets the neurons going.
ya and I think one thread on the subject is plenty. Orbit knows all about it and is working on it. thanks

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Also sippin on some Ultima right now, bout to go tear up the gym