Need Help

[germaine91]

the guy im getting it off says do the test and just clomid for pct, says i dnt need hcg... but from what iv read, i think hcg and nolva would b better for pct, and if gyno problems occur i could use the nova as an anti-e, do you think this is the best route

 

[Zyglamail]

clomids whats ya dont need. Run hcg DURING cycle not after, to keep your testes working while on so they arent shut down hard. You are probably going to want an anti-E while at at 500mg a week also. Nolva is not an anti-e, it does nothing to prevent E from being created just prevents it from binding to the E receptor. Your better off preventing the buildup of E in the first place.

 

[germaine91]

so, you think i should run hcg for last 4weeks of cycle? nolva 2weeks after last test shot? and have somethin like arimidex as an anti-e durin cycle? thats kinda what i was thinkin when the guy was sayin clomid, just wanted to clarify with some other guys who know more than me, thanks

 

[ceo]

6' 185, trying to gain weight and you say your diet is "in check"? Sorry bro, it's likely not. And you gained 15 lbs in 3 months already (good job), but you put on too much fat?

You've got a lot of learning to do. It's extremely difficult for hardgainers to really bulk up and add a lot of muscle without putting on some fat. You can do it up to a point, but to get beyond that it's damn near impossible. Also, working out 5 days a week is too much. You could gain 20 pounds in 12 weeks if you worked out less and ate more. Are you doing squats? Deadlifts? What does your "in check" diet look like? Give us a typical day. Also post your training with weights and rep ranges. Would you like to gain 20 lbs in the next 12 weeks or so, and another 20 lbs in 12 weeks after that...or just 20 lbs now and probably lose 10 after PCT?

You've already told us the answer really. You're going to do what you want to do come hell or high water, no matter what anyone here says. You're going to be the typical bro doing 2-3 cycles a year always hanging around the 190-205 lb. range doing it your way.

 

[Judo Tom]

hmmm, why do you think i will drop so much after my PCT? ye earlier this year i put on bout 15lbs in 3months through diet and trainin but too much fat gain. iv given it alot of thought n think i am gonna go down the test e road.

because you have not built up a good natural base yet.

keep working hard naturally on your diet and training.. when you really have it all figured ou that is when you want to jump into roids.. not before.. because when you come off you will lose most of what you have gained.. we have seen this THOUSANDS of times over and over again.

 

[zedhed]

CEO is 100% right in what he said bro. Read what he and Zyg are telling you.
Then sleep on it.
At your size you really are throwing your money away to do a cycle and you really need to learn quite a bit more before you start putting chemicals into your bod.
I think you should realize that your guy really is not doing you a favor as of yet. It appears that he does not have your best intreest at heart but just wants to sell you some gear.
Think about it man and good luck.

 

[stevesmi]

I will echo whats already been said.

I just think you are underdeveloped and young... give it a few years and keep working hard and good things will happen.

you have a good half a foot on me in height yet we weigh the same and have about the same bf.. that should tell you something about what kind of mass I have put on that past 15 years training as someone in their 30's. vs. someone like you who has been training for a short time and is still young. i don't even consider myself a beast, just a gym rat who people look at as being a meathead.

too many guys in their early 20's run cycles too early, then get frustrated and quit once they get a full time career, college, gf, kids, etc...

 

[Lurker Man]

I agree with everyone here, im 22 myself been lifting for 3 years, 100% natural just taking whey isolate and creatine im 5'8 223lb with 17% BF, and your a year younger, 40lb lighter, 4inch taller than me and your looking for a shortcut ALREADY?? Put in some damn work man, im not against steroids, i just dont want to risk my health for some muscle since im already the size of a juice monkeys at the gym i see..

 

[craniumak]

Just remember when nothing goes as plan, don't plan on writing why you dont know why your cycle didnt turn out the way you wanted. No sympathy will be found here. These guys know their shit. Ive watched some of my bros jump in to quickly and really f'ed themselves up. Take advice and go natty for awhile. Im 24 and still working on my base before I jump into anything. 6' 195lbs around 12% bodyfat. Lastly, find a bulking diet that you can do without roids and not gain a bunch of fat. Ive never had a bulk where I gained 15, but mostly fat. All I can advise is read read read and when you think you've read enough read more. The diet forum has some good info. Thats my 2 cents.

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[germaine91]

ok, i came on this forum for advice and it seems every1 is in agreement tht roids are not the way to go atm, so i am gonna listen to you, ill just go at it natural, guess i was just lookin for a cheat, i do 1.5hours swimming on wednesdays and either 1.5hours of cardio/circuits on fridays so i will be weight training mon, tues, thurs, sat, sun rest.... hopefully that cardio will help limit fat gain while eating 3000+cal, thanks for your help. one more q tho, when do you think is an appropraite time to start roids, after the age of 26?