Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below One of the things I'm having a hard time understanding is that my LH signal is there; however, my testes have not fully blown back up and my FSH is low. I'm going to get more BW in a couple wks to see if there's any improvement. Does this sound like a good idea or should I wait longer? Oh yeah, another thing is that I had my BW done a week before the ones posted and my estrogen was 23 which is normal. I had the BWs taken from different labs each time so could that be the difference? I don't understand how my body can drop from 23 to <5
Need help! Still not recovered 7 wks post pct- HCG?
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I don't get it steve, there is a wealtg of info out there free for the taking on aas recovery, and I even run into the occasional juicer at the gym who wont use clomid or nolva anymore, yet there are still people waving the AE flag...
To the OP, yes those natty supps with boost you up and get you going again, and I would suggest running hcgenerate with the unleashed/post cycle combo. You'll feel great, and it will help your bloods return to normal faster.
And don't run another cycle without proper planning, pct, and having someone check it out for you bro, the advice here is free, use it!
To the OP, yes those natty supps with boost you up and get you going again, and I would suggest running hcgenerate with the unleashed/post cycle combo. You'll feel great, and it will help your bloods return to normal faster.
And don't run another cycle without proper planning, pct, and having someone check it out for you bro, the advice here is free, use it!
you are a victim of getting bad advice from other sites.. now that you are on EF i hope you will stick around and learn the right way to pct.
the biggest part of PCT is what you do during cycle and pre-cycle.
1. you need to cover all bases during cycle (control, not kill, estrogen... keep the nuts plump using hcgenerate
2. you need to run hcg/HMG to kickstart your pct
3. you need to run a proper and balanced pct that will control estrogen (not kill) and keep you feeling good and recover your lipids
you failed to do all of the above.
so learn from your mistakes and don't repeat them. its as simple as that.. you can analyze and wonder why this happened or that happened. why your bloods are here or there. if you don't learn and understand what you did wrong then you are just gonna keep repeating them
oh i know why they do it.. they get their advice from other people on other sites.. guys who don't even cycle... guys who are on HRT yet are giving cycling advice. had they cycled correctly they wouldn't be on HRT to begin with. or guys who just stay on all year and come off for a few weeks then jump back on
Thanks for the advice, Steve. So taking these natural supps won't suppress me any further, and they will help me get back to my normal levels? It's hard being 25 and having little sex drive. I'm really worried about my FSH because I want to have a family one day. Right now I'm taking ZMA, Vit E, Vit D, multivitamin, and fish oil.
^^^ those supplements are non suppressive...
my theory on FSH is when you start running hormones it will always get lower and lower.. plus as you age it will slowly drop as well. thats the risk you take with hormones. the longer you come off the better chance you have that your FSH will recover. if you cycle on and off for the next decade for example your FSH is gonna take a beating.
my theory on FSH is when you start running hormones it will always get lower and lower.. plus as you age it will slowly drop as well. thats the risk you take with hormones. the longer you come off the better chance you have that your FSH will recover. if you cycle on and off for the next decade for example your FSH is gonna take a beating.
They support your own recovery. SO sicne you already did damage, it'll take a whule but the supplements will make the recovery less rough and imrpove overall levels quicker. Go off of everything and use a doubel dose of UNLEASHED along with the PF POST-CYCLE every day and I'll bet in 3 weeks you'll feel 1000% better.
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?? If he does that he will make things worse, using clomid and Nolvadex will destroy his natural test and they are low enough as it is.
Spot on advice again Steve!
I'd say you'll probably feel better in less then a week using unleashed/post cycle/ hcgenerate... Ive been down your path before and it sucks. There is light at the end of the tunnel though, just pick up what these guys have been saying to you and you will recover.
You may even want to add some toco-8 and even a low dose of formastanzol if you can afford all of it.
Fsh I have questions about to, wondering if it'll ever fully come back. It's not the worst thing in the world if you ask me, you can always be put on something to make you fertal again while your trying to conceive a child. At this point when your cycling steroids and god knows what other supplements, do you really think that you'll be " completely natural" and off everything when you conceive a child? I doubt it, so don't sweat it too much. Whats one more thing to take in the am? I would like to see fsh return though.
You may even want to add some toco-8 and even a low dose of formastanzol if you can afford all of it.
Fsh I have questions about to, wondering if it'll ever fully come back. It's not the worst thing in the world if you ask me, you can always be put on something to make you fertal again while your trying to conceive a child. At this point when your cycling steroids and god knows what other supplements, do you really think that you'll be " completely natural" and off everything when you conceive a child? I doubt it, so don't sweat it too much. Whats one more thing to take in the am? I would like to see fsh return though.
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