Need advice for intense training

[RoHudTuffy]

Hi guys. I have been training for a few months and am about to begin some really intense training and want to get your opinion on what type of cycle to do. I am 185 LBS, 6'1" and about 18% BF.

I have done one cycle before. I hesitate to reveal all the details, as it would shock most newbies. But I know the old timers would probably know about it. I don't want to shock anyone. What the real hard core will do for muscle gains is often shocking the the less diligent.

Briefly let me just say I did a 12 week "second generation" cycle of TE (testo enanthate). I did not gain much off of it though. Perhaps my training partner, who got the gear , got ripped off with some bunk gear or something...?

Anyway, I use the machines twice a week. I make 2 rounds through all the stations. There is something like 10 stations - all the big muscle groups - pec dec, leg extension - all of them.

In a few weeks I am going to start some really intense training - doing an hour of yoga in addition to the weight training.

So what type of gear should I recommend my partner get, to "generation" with me?

 

[The Terminator]

Steroids + Pec dec, leg extensions and Yoga = Poor results

It sounds to me like you REALLY need to reconsider what you are doing with your training regimen

 

[maldorf]

Steroids + Pec dec, leg extensions and Yoga = Poor results

It sounds to me like you REALLY need to reconsider what you are doing with your training regimen

I totally agree here. You said youve been training for a few months now? You mean you have only been weight training for a few months? If that is true, you need to not even consider hitting the sauce. If you are looking to grow, you need to change the whole style in which you train. I would say if youre not even doing freeweights, dont even consider using. You should be doing heavy basic exercises with freeweights like: barbell squats, deadlifts, bench press, military press etc. I would say perhaps after a couple years of heavy training you could consider using AAS. If you use now you will be very disapointed with your results and end up screwing with your natural test levels for nothing.

 

[The Terminator]

I totally agree here. You said youve been training for a few months now? You mean you have only been weight training for a few months? If that is true, you need to not even consider hitting the sauce. If you are looking to grow, you need to change the whole style in which you train. I would say if youre not even doing freeweights, dont even consider using. You should be doing heavy basic exercises with freeweights like: barbell squats, deadlifts, bench press, military press etc. I would say perhaps after a couple years of heavy training you could consider using AAS. If you use now you will be very disapointed with your results and end up screwing with your natural test levels for nothing.

Yep, he will ONLY end up learning how to run WITHOUT learning how to walk first

 

[RoHudTuffy]

Well I will discuss it with my training partner. He really knows what he is doing and has explained cycles and steroids to me ad infinitum. Casey Viator only trained with Nautilus in the 80's and made great gains.

But obviously I am willing to do whatever it takes if I am willing to do a 2nd generation cycle. I mean I will do push ups, squat thrusts, sit ups, dynamic tension exercises ...whatever it takes.

 

[footballstud]

ever hear of free weights??? This new phenomenon thats sweeping the nation.... check it out!

 

[The Terminator]

Well I will discuss it with my training partner. He really knows what he is doing and has explained cycles and steroids to me ad infinitum. Casey Viator only trained with Nautilus in the 80's and made great gains.

But obviously I am willing to do whatever it takes if I am willing to do a 2nd generation cycle. I mean I will do push ups, squat thrusts, sit ups, dynamic tension exercises ...whatever it takes.

With everything you have posted in these two posts of yours I would HIGHLY suggest you rethink using steroids...

They ARENT for someone at your apparent level

 

[maldorf]

Well I will discuss it with my training partner. He really knows what he is doing and has explained cycles and steroids to me ad infinitum. Casey Viator only trained with Nautilus in the 80's and made great gains.

But obviously I am willing to do whatever it takes if I am willing to do a 2nd generation cycle. I mean I will do push ups, squat thrusts, sit ups, dynamic tension exercises ...whatever it takes.

I think another problem you run into when you haven't been lifting very long is the inability to achieve enough intensity. You need to condition your body to handle heavy freeweights. You also really need to find out what exercises and rep schemes work best for you. If you take steroids during this learning period you will not achieve optimal results. Buy a book or two on bodybuilding, Arnold's is pretty good, and read up. You must also be aware of what post cylce therapy is, how to cylce what youll be using etc. If you do not take them properly, you will end up right where you started a few months after the cylce is complete. ONly thing is now your test levels will be lower than when you started.

 

[Singleton]

Yoga is one of the most beneficial parts of my program.

Just a few physical benes of Ashtanga yoga:

* Fascial Stretching (promotes MGF & IGF)
* endorphin release
* cardiovascular conditioning (increase RBC, thyroid output, et c)
* Down dog will condition your tibia like nothing else
* better posture
* lower cortisol
* better core conditioning - like Pilates

Rohud, you might need to adjust your sleep and diet a bit. Conditioning is great. For your intense training, go for the big lifts like OHP, DL, Bench. These lifts put on the most muscle for me.

 

[Singleton]

Oh, and I don't think you're ready for gear.

You might try to give yourself a goal and let gear be the reward. Say like :
"I'm gonna hold of on gear until I lose 15lb fat and gain 15lb muscle. That'd put you at a little under 10% at 185lbs, which is not too bad, even considering your height.

I could do it without juice.