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NBA and Juice.....

Joe Stenson said:
You said 100 players who aren't juicing for every one that is. That's a lot different than finding 100 guys who don't juice. Stick to one story.



Wow, I'm tired of arguing about this so I'm not gonna say anything else about it.
 
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K13 said:
nfl = 80% if not more
mlb = i'd say like 40-60%
nba = 20-35% maybe more
nhl = tough to say 30-40%

just rough estimates, pros take a lot other "drugs" , baseball, all of them take speed.



Dude, god damn were not talking about OTHER DRUGS, and if you think 40% of the guys in the NHL take steroids, then your out of your fucking mind! For what? To knock someone into the glass? 60% in Baseball? are you kidding? Your insulting hundreds of players that have set most of the records that are standing even today! You guys gotta learn when to say when on this accusation bullshit. Have some fucking respect, seriously!

All of them take speed?!!!!! I just saw this! All of them?! K13, you can't just post bullshit like that man!
 
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Watson said:
Dude, god damn were not talking about OTHER DRUGS, and if you think 40% of the guys in the NHL take steroids, then your out of your fucking mind! For what? To knock someone into the glass? 60% in Baseball? are you kidding? Your insulting hundreds of players that have set most of the records that are standing even today! You guys gotta learn when to say when on this accusation bullshit. Have some fucking respect, seriously!

All of them take speed?!!!!! I just saw this! All of them?! K13, you can't just post bullshit like that man!


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Watson said:
Dude, god damn were not talking about OTHER DRUGS, and if you think 40% of the guys in the NHL take steroids, then your out of your fucking mind! For what? To knock someone into the glass? 60% in Baseball? are you kidding? Your insulting hundreds of players that have set most of the records that are standing even today! You guys gotta learn when to say when on this accusation bullshit. Have some fucking respect, seriously!

All of them take speed?!!!!! I just saw this! All of them?! K13, you can't just post bullshit like that man!

NHL is a physical sport and lots of injuries, lots of endurance needed. you do the math.

MLB, dident you notice all the pathetic players getting caught now, even in the minors, if chumps like that are taking gear who's not,. the better player your are the more $$$ you have, the better doctors/shit you can get to pass tests.

baseball players said if amphetamines were to be banned, baseball would cease to exist pretty much, thus owners/unions know not to ban that shit.

it insults me to hear people say they are "natural" like Ronnie Coleman saying LOL, i know the reasons why he has to, but very few pro sport athletes will admit to taking anything, thus insulting the public intelligance
 
Watson: 1) the Read before you chime wasn't directed at you it was directed at the guy who stated his running speeds slowed down after his test cycle. Coloradosteve was his name and I preffaced that before I said anything. No dig on you man

And to tell ya the truth ( not anyone specific of course) Your all messed up. 40% of NHL athletes (hahahaha) 60% of the MLB (hehehehe) Dude MLB has turned a blind eye on almost all drugs right up untill a couple years ago.
Yes there are athletes who are clean I am sure of it. But to me and with what I have read and seen and even with the blind eye......Most..meaning to me 80% or more have taken "some sort of muscle enhancing drug that has produced strength enhacement and performance enhacement"
If you don't believe this then even run a small test of your own. Buy baseball cards. Get the rookie cards of your fsavorite players and look at how much they have grown over the years. (now look at how they are shrinking)
I also agree that I want to see bigger better fast players administering mind blowing hits homeruns and slamdunks....so I am not saying "bad athletes, bad bad bad athletes" I am saying that it's out there. It is starting in HS like earlier stated and if he takes in HS and gets to the college game how can you say it isn't going to continue through college and into the minors and up to the big leagues........how many torn ligament injuries have we seen in the last few years ? HMMMMMMMM?

Just one guys opinion.

(ps. good thread lots of opinions and voices)
 
Hey, I know Ronnie Coleman! He works out at my gym, and I think he's all natural. That's what he told me anyway, LOL.
 
Watson said:
and if you think 40% of the guys in the NHL take steroids, then your out of your fucking mind! For what? To knock someone into the glass?

Try playing an 82 (84?) game season, practicing every day, hitting the gym, all the while being away from home for half the year and tell me you couldn't use a little something for recovery. Jesus man, I swear you're just not getting it. Steroids DO NOT HAVE TO EQUAL BIG BULGING MUSCLES; there's many reasons to take them.

Watson said:
60% in Baseball? are you kidding?

It's all speculation, but I thought it was established that a good 80-85% of baseball players have at least tried steroids.

Once you get past the fact that you don't have to look jacked to be using gear, it's really quite obvious why athletes juice. Their sport is their life. Why wouldn't they want to guarantee themselves of being the best player they can be? Talent is important, but if you take 2 guys with equal talent and give one steroids and the other stays natural, who makes the team?
 
bruce410 said:
yeah i lived the chicago 6 championships. karl would come into town, he was immensly more jacked than the other nba players for sure. alonzo too if you look at him. it would not surprise me if ben wallace was juicing either. forgot bout him
what bout larry johnson back in the day
 
Even NFL punters got caught with steroids, wtf does that tell you, a fucken punter.

Alex sanchez, little twig in baseball, steroids. just cause your not Ronnie, doesent mean your not ON
 
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