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Myth's dispelled after 2 cycles

nolin

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Well there's nothing like trial and error to validate or dispell myths. I'm in the middle of my second cycle and have learned a lot from my limited experiences thus far. Here are some of the things I've learned and myths I no longer adhere to.

1) My first cycle was deca @ 400mg a week and Test enanthate @ 500. I was on Ldex and still got bloated as hell, conclusion:
Deca bloats the fuck out of me and those that say deca doesn't bloat are full of shit

2) Some say things don't kick in til' week 4 or 5 with slow esthers, my experience: I went from 190 to 201 in 3 weeks and had pumps from hell!!!! Not to mention strength, conclusion: 4 to 5 weeks my ass!!!

3) Some say don't do cardio if you're bulking, I gained 26 lbs in 8 weeks and was a fat fuck, albeit some water wieght but I had to cardio my self into oblivion afterwards to get rid of the fat. From now on I will always do cardio or move very fast between sets to get an anaerobic/aerobic workout.

4) Your lipid profile will be destroyed and your blood pressure will go through the roof if you do any 17aa stuff. This may be true, but I used Niacin, red rice yeast and a host of other things to keep it in check and my lipid profile was better after the cycle. Conclusion: an ounce of precaution = a pound results when it comes to your health

5) My second cycle is Test and Tren. I started Test enanthate @500 mg per week and Tren @ 75 mg Eod the first 2 weeks. I didn't really feel Tren until I switched to 50mg ED, 3 days later......Holy shit! For me ED DOES make a difference.

6) It's been suggested that you can't cut and bulk at the same time....entering week 4 of my Test/Tren cycle and I've lost 2% bf and gained a half inch in my chest and arms. Also my waist has shrunk a half inch and I'm looking more tight by the hour. Also I'm on Swole cats diet and system which includes cardio. My conclusion: For me it is now possible to get bigger and get cut, Halleluah!!!!!

7) Tren and Test, or roids in general will make you a mean moody bastard? At the start of week 3 of my present cycle I got the distinct feeling I was flying. I feel absolutely great, on cloud nine,lovin' life. I'm completely exhilirated and it has a lot to do with getting results from hard work and seeing goals as achievable and not just pipe dreams. I feel like an alpha male, proud to be a man and feelin' it. If some people do act like assholes maybe they're not comfortable with feeling manly or they use it as an excuse.

So that's what I've learned so far, and some of what I have said will probably get some people pissed or call me full of shit. All I know is that all of the knowledge that you accumulate is just a guideline, in the end you have to be a guinea pig and learn what works for you. I hope this helps someone.:D
 
nolin said:
4) Your lipid profile will be destroyed and your blood pressure will go through the roof if you do any 17aa stuff. This may be true, but I used Niacin, red rice yeast and a host of other things to keep it in check and my lipid profile was better after the cycle. Conclusion: an ounce of precaution = a pound results when it comes to your health

Never heard niacin helping the lipid profile, can you site where you read this?

-sk
 
Bro your gear kicks in faster on your first few cycles then your body adapts to it. That is why most say 4-6 weeks to start seeing the effects.
 
Ok

Ok then, but it would be good for a newbie to know that they will feel things much sooner. I know I was shocked at the results that soon because no one ever said it's different for a newbie:D
 
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said a lot of things are generalites. Each individual reacts different ways to certain things. Thats why I like the saying "LISTEN TO YOURE BODY"..........billyd
 
Great idea posting your observations bro. I would like to point out that tren does not build up in the body sufficently until 2-3 weeks, even up to 4 for some people. I would suggest that your conclusion on ed vs eod is made with flawed logic. The important thing is you are finding what works for you and it's cool your shareing.
 
Bro i think a lot of stuff you are saying is dead on, but the results do depend on the person. For me i did not feel EQ/EN until week 4. So some stuff i think is more subjective. But i think that is good info on your experiences.
 
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