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whatchutalkinboutwillis
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Old school stuff beast...........me like !!!!!!!
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My training style
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Singleton said:
Id go on an all sushi diet if it wasnt so expensive. I used to go to a sushi buffet occasionally until my stomache was about to explode, but even that was 20$ for one sitting. Im not sure how high the protein is, but I think it would add up if enough is eaten.Maybe throw in some protein shakes too.
TENPACK said:
ThanX for the feeback and compliments brother!! I think one of the reasons I can do so much in a given day has alot to do with forcing it over the years. Theres been many times I didnt want to finish my routines, or that Ive felt quite torn up, but would just finish myself off. Sometimes, mentally, Im not into it at all. Those days its the hardest. As soon as I started lifting at 14 and 105-115lbs I was on this routine. I started it with mostly machines however. It didnt take me long to rack all the machines at 140lbs and then I started more freeweights. I always did skull crushers, upright rows, dumbell shrugs, dumbell curls, ez curl or barbell curls, and possibly a few other free weight movements, since the beginning. If I had to label someone as a "hardgainer" , Id definately say that fits my description. Its been 9 straight years of training just to get to where I am now. I lose weight rapidly if I miss a few meals. And gains are very slow and gradual. I made quick gains in the beginning, but that only lasted a few years. My size gains are at a crawl now. I beleive if it was able to work for me, it should work for just about anyone. I was all bone. And my gains have been overall slow, but they do add up. Ive modified the routine alot now also, as you can see in my journal. I stick to the basic 12-15 set rule as a minimum only. On back day I can hit 30 sets. My reps are all over the place now however. I get the entire spectrum of rep ranges now. I would reccomend for trainers still new to lifting, that they keep it simple so they can stick to it. 12-15 sets at 12-15 reps worked real well for me, and I definately made the bulk of my gains off of the routine. As for more advanced lifters, I think its good to experiment with different rep ranges while keeping the volume the same. Of course there are so many ways to train, and so many different body types, I think it all comes down to experimentation. The routine can be intimidating to those not used to the workload, but your body should adjust over time. Sounds like you adjusted to it, but at the same time felt overly taxed. I would try to split your muscle groups up, in a way that allows precise recovery for each. Nothing is exact, but Id try to learn the amount of days needed to recover each body part (when the soreness is gone) and then incorporate that into your routine. Its never good to hit the bench when your triceps or still sore. I hardly ever feel overtrained, and I think it is because of the way I split everything up. I might feel a little worn out and tired on some days, but its never something I cant just break through. It can be tough to get psyched when I feel like this, but I always find a way. Usually a little "Extreme Ripped Force" and some metal, with the headphones on will get me out of that state. I try to take 2 rest days every week also. Its all about finding ways to adapt to the routine, and not dreading it too much. It helps to find exercises you enjoy, to keep you motivated. I have a few of them. Deadlifts and variations, flat bench and incline are my highlights of the week. I enjoy those the most. When Im not deadlifting, Im thinking about it all the time. Thats one of the reasons Im in the gym so long on those days. Not because its necessary but because I need the vent. Ive always been accused of overtraining, but the ones whove accused me have never improved. I absorb as much as I can, but when it comes down to it I burn my own path. I think it gets to a point where you have to heed the signals your body gives you and learn from what works for you. As much as Id like to believe the routine would work for everyone, it may not. Whatever it is that works for you, dont change it until the progress stops. Unless you just want to add to it. Ive made lots of additions to my routine over the years. Hope that helps!!
whatchutalkinboutwillis said:
ThanX brother!! Its the only thing that works for me!
crew9 said:Won't now that for certain until you try other things without altering them
Nothing can be known for sure
Allon
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Hey Beast, I know from your previous threads that 12-15 reps is what you find gives you most size, but I think I might add here that most people find the 8-10 rep range best, and personally I think that if someone is looking for size they should do a month or two of 8-10 reps and then a month or two of 12-15 reps... + a few weeks of 5-7 reps in between those two alternates... Just my thoughts on this.
ghettostudmuffin
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I know for a fact that routine would quickly lead to overtraining for me. I know because I used to do that many sets and train that many days per week back in high school. Did not work for me at all.
But, if you're someone that has never done that much then you might as well try it because your body may like that kind of volume.
Just recently I have found that I can handle a greater training frequency and volume then I previously thought I could once I stopped training to failure ala Bill Pearl style sorta.
I think that a person should do as much volume of work as they can up to and before they wear themselves out. Know your limits.
I never thought I was a hardgainer back in highschool and previous training years because I always had a solid bone and muscle structure and made rapid progress when I would actually train for a few months until I'd hit a serious overtraining wall.
As of late, I have found that it was training to intense momentary failure on all or most of my sets that was depleting me. Some people like me do not respond well to being thrashed every workout. Yet, if I moderate my efforts a certain amount I make constant, consistent rapid progress.
Experiment and do what works best for YOU. But, if you've never done that kind of volume before then you might as well try it. KILL THAT SHIT!
But, if you're someone that has never done that much then you might as well try it because your body may like that kind of volume.
Just recently I have found that I can handle a greater training frequency and volume then I previously thought I could once I stopped training to failure ala Bill Pearl style sorta.
I think that a person should do as much volume of work as they can up to and before they wear themselves out. Know your limits.
I never thought I was a hardgainer back in highschool and previous training years because I always had a solid bone and muscle structure and made rapid progress when I would actually train for a few months until I'd hit a serious overtraining wall.
As of late, I have found that it was training to intense momentary failure on all or most of my sets that was depleting me. Some people like me do not respond well to being thrashed every workout. Yet, if I moderate my efforts a certain amount I make constant, consistent rapid progress.
Experiment and do what works best for YOU. But, if you've never done that kind of volume before then you might as well try it. KILL THAT SHIT!
Allon said:
Makes sense. Experimentation is really the only way to find what you respond best too. For me, it usually takes alot longer then 2 months to see if something is working, but not always. The last 6 months Ive made some of my best gains in a long time. My routine has changed alot over the years though. I get the whole spectrum of rep ranges in my routines now. This was just the basic foundation I started with. I couldnt really reccomend my current routine to anyone. Its very personalized, and something Ive built up to over the last almost 10 years training. I can reccomend ideas from it, but I wouldnt put someone on the routine. Aside from that its very hard to determine my exact routine. It changes often and isnt set in stone. Its different every week in many areas. Theres not much of a set order, and I may decide to switch things up. Certain core lifts stay in the same order, but anything else is up for manipulation. My set and rep schemes are also based on feel, and what I feel I can hit PR's on for a given day. I wont know until Im in the gym. Keep KILLING that shit!!
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