My test results

[chesty]

Okay,
So my LH and FSH are off the charts! IE, my brain is telling my balls make testosterone and sperm, good right? Wrong, apparently my body doesn't have any testosterone at all in it.

Serum testosterone is 28ng/dL (280.0ng/dL-800.0ng/dL normal)
Free testosterone is 1.0pg/mL (6.8pg/L-21.5pg/L normal)
IGF-BP3 (growth hormone) is 4.4mg/L (3.3mg/L-6.6mg/L normal)

So, he is going to have me redo the testosterone test, so I have to stop my cycle for a month then take retest, he is also having the growth hormone stimulating test done as well.

My balls are normal, etc so he is quite baffled. All other tests are normal, so no diseases are problem. He is ready to prescribe me both test and gh. Not exactly the way I had thought it would be. I would rather be cycling it and not need it for everyday life.

These results can explain why I have put on so much fat and have been having a bitch of a time losing it and getting my body back, not to mention the ho hum workouts and motivation at times.

 

[chesty]

Given my test results, is it possible that I am producing too much estrogen/estrodiol? I was thinking of having the doc test for that as well if possible.

Also, how long to wait after last injection before taking testosterone test over? I'm not worried about the levels being low, but rather being artificially high.

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

I don't even see how your test results are possible with your current cycle. Regardless if your body is totally off right now do to exogenous test your levels should be significantly higher than average period while cycling.

Makes no sense to me and I don't know shit about these tests.


EDIT: You sure that's not 28 L and 1 L for serum and free test. I opened the doc and I don't see ml after those. I see L.

Again I don't know shit about this stuff so I don't even know if 28L for serum and 1L for free test are even possible.

 

[chesty]

The L means Low. And those are the results prior to starting my cycle. So, I was not on anything till after the test.

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

Ahhh ok, that makes sense now.

Well bro maybe it's time to hit the hrt. Needto was just talking about Nebido test injections lasting like 12 weeks a shot.

1 shot a week honestly wouldn't bother me at all. 1 shot every 10+ weeks would be a no brainer.

Then you could supplement it when ya want.

 

[chesty]

Yep

 

[chesty]

That is what I am hoping for. Who can answer this? When the do the GH stimulation test, what is a good response vs bad response? Ie what tells them that they should then go ahead and prescribe GH?

 

[OMEGA]

You should be happy your Doc will prescribe GH bro

since you need Test and GH, make sure he prescribed enough for a "vigarous" lifestyle

for you id say 200 per week plus 3 iu GH 5 days a week

 

[needtogetaas]

Ahhh ok, that makes sense now.

Well bro maybe it's time to hit the hrt. Needto was just talking about Nebido test injections lasting like 12 weeks a shot.

1 shot a week honestly wouldn't bother me at all. 1 shot every 10+ weeks would be a no brainer.

Then you could supplement it when ya want.

get on that Nebido if you can bro

 

[chesty]

I'll see what he says.

 

[chesty]

Given my test results, is it possible that I am producing too much estrogen/estrodiol? I was thinking of having the doc test for that as well if possible.

Also, how long to wait after last injection before taking testosterone test over? I'm not worried about the levels being low, but rather being artificially high.

No one can answer this question? I have to wait I know, but I don't want to wait too long to get started up again.

 

[Varga]

Okay,
So my LH and FSH are off the charts! IE, my brain is telling my balls make testosterone and sperm, good right? Wrong, apparently my body doesn't have any testosterone at all in it.

Serum testosterone is 28ng/dL (280.0ng/dL-800.0ng/dL normal)
Free testosterone is 1.0pg/mL (6.8pg/L-21.5pg/L normal)
IGF-BP3 (growth hormone) is 4.4mg/L (3.3mg/L-6.6mg/L normal)

So, he is going to have me redo the testosterone test, so I have to stop my cycle for a month then take retest, he is also having the growth hormone stimulating test done as well.

My balls are normal, etc so he is quite baffled. All other tests are normal, so no diseases are problem. He is ready to prescribe me both test and gh. Not exactly the way I had thought it would be. I would rather be cycling it and not need it for everyday life.

These results can explain why I have put on so much fat and have been having a bitch of a time losing it and getting my body back, not to mention the ho hum workouts and motivation at times.

Interesting results bro, honestly most ppl have LH issues but your pituitary seems to be giving out the LH signal and by just looking at the initial results seems like the nuts have the problem.
My advice is to have your nuts checked out for possible damage and make sure you dont have a tumor or something in the pituitary. Honestly not sure why the GH is super low either....Im not trying to scare you or anything but have a brain scan as well as you nuts too.

 

[Zyglamail]

No one can answer this question? I have to wait I know, but I don't want to wait too long to get started up again.

There is very little natural E in men, the lions share comes from aromatization and with your test numbers I highly doubt you have high E as well. I agree with Varga, looks like your nuts are broke. Have you ever had blood work in the past to make sure you were recovering from cycles?

 

[chesty]

Every year. At 40 I was at the upper end by 43 I was at middle by 44 at 536 by now 1. I have had ultrasound on nuts. All fine. Size is normal, etc. Doc is scratching head.

 

[Varga]

Every year. At 40 I was at the upper end by 43 I was at middle by 44 at 536 by now 1. I have had ultrasound on nuts. All fine. Size is normal, etc. Doc is scratching head.

Hmmm, this is strange bro. Only thing that comes to mind is that your LH was always high and desentysized your nuts?...
But why is the LH that high?
That's why Im suspecting a tumor in the pituaitary and that would explain the low GH.

 

[Varga]

Every year. At 40 I was at the upper end by 43 I was at middle by 44 at 536 by now 1. I have had ultrasound on nuts. All fine. Size is normal, etc. Doc is scratching head.

Were you the person who's test levels were 1900 some years ago?

 

[chesty]

Yeah around 1850 when i was 40 and that was several tears after my last cycle. That scale had an upper range of 2100.

 

[Varga]

Yeah around 1850 when i was 40 and that was several tears after my last cycle. That scale had an upper range of 2100.

i thought you had that level of a range of 200-1000ng/dl.
1900 in that case would be way too high for a normal person
But if there is another scale then you in the upper range.
in any case your levels dropped very quick which is a red flag bro.

 

[chesty]

I know. Same with fatigue and feeling weak and difficulty cutting up.

 

[Varga]

I know. Same with fatigue and feeling weak and difficulty cutting up.

My pituitary started to do similar things you describe man, and I chose HRT because I was reacting much like you do...some time my test levels were high and sometimes in the toilette. My moods were teribble too. THere was no tumor or anything just went south and couldnt stand the ups and downs. Ever since HRT I feel like a champ.

 

[chesty]

Doc is pretty much set on HRT, he is just double checking. 1 thing of note is that the test was done 5 weeks after a single test injection by my other doc so I wonder if that is why they tanked. Which is why I am asking the other question about how long to wait again to take the retest. My last cycle shot was last thursday. It was winny and decca. Last tuesday was my last test injection. So I was going to wait three weeks and take the retest. I am not worried about them being tanked at that point (would just solidify doctors decision) rather, I am worried about them being to high. My doc isn't stupid and he knows I body build and that I had done some cycles years back.

 

[Varga]

Doc is pretty much set on HRT, he is just double checking. 1 thing of note is that the test was done 5 weeks after a single test injection by my other doc so I wonder if that is why they tanked. Which is why I am asking the other question about how long to wait again to take the retest. My last cycle shot was last thursday. It was winny and decca. Last tuesday was my last test injection. So I was going to wait three weeks and take the retest. I am not worried about them being tanked at that point (would just solidify doctors decision) rather, I am worried about them being to high. My doc isn't stupid and he knows I body build and that I had done some cycles years back.

ahh I see now. Well, depending on the person that single shot of test you too can be in your system for up to 3 weeks in some cases and so is deca. I woould say 3 weeks minimum or 4 to be on the safe side.
My test shot only stays in my system for 7 days but that's me although I've see others post up to 3 weeks. So be careful


I cant believe that 1 shot will shut you down that much but I guess anything is possible. Normaly the LH tanks not your nuts so you can draw your own conclusion.
As for the test now you pretty much shut down and the LH should be low. If it's high after you've done winny, deca, test then something is def going on.

 

[stevesmi]

sorry man... i am at 98 total test and i feel like crap. cant imagine being at 28.

now i dont feel as bad cause i know others are in the same boat or worse but i hope it works out for ya.

 

[chesty]

Nothing like being tired all the time

 

[stevesmi]

Nothing like being tired all the time

oooof.. thats rough shape.

but your docs plan should fix things. for you.. keep things updated.

i will probably be on some type of HRT once i get your age as well. i wont live life with low test.

 

[chesty]

It sucks

 

[Varga]

Sucks is not even the word but you heading in the right direction for sure is just a matter of finishing the paperwork sort of speaking

 

[chesty]

Exactly. Howevr im gonna be on it no matter what the outcome.