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My syntherol experment

RADAR

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As some of you might know i experenced a severe biceps tear several yrs ago. Recently i was fortunate to acquire some syntherol from Synthetek Industries.

3 weeks in and i can say i'm impressed.I just hope the end results are as good as right now. It flows easily thru a slin pin with no problems.
And my torn bi is very closely matching my left again.
Those you are thinking of trying this product,Let me say this, It is very important that you massage the muscle thoroughly, Stretching is a must also.I'm running it with Tren <will add Tbol next week Its a safe way to make the gains more 'permanent'.



I would suggest you reading Big A's guidlines before using Syntherol.


Props to Synthetek Industries for an exceptional product!


RADAR
 
I'm off to the gym ,i'll be happy to answer any questions later!

Pronto!
RADAR
 
i'm very curious about this. my genetics don't allow me to have great bi's. and have been curious on trying it but was worried that it would give them that obvious roundness that's a dead giveaway. i've not been too educated on the subject. have been thinking doing site enhancement inj. with syntherol or igf. which would be better in your opinion? if syntherol won't give them that weird look then that would be great.
 
bigtravis said:
i'm very curious about this. my genetics don't allow me to have great bi's. and have been curious on trying it but was worried that it would give them that obvious roundness that's a dead giveaway. i've not been too educated on the subject. have been thinking doing site enhancement inj. with syntherol or igf. which would be better in your opinion? if syntherol won't give them that weird look then that would be great.



You should have no problems if you take it slow an massage the area well, if you feel a lump keep massaging until it not as noticable, the weird roundness you are describing is failure to massage and stretch the area properly . plus alot of site inj's to that area, after you have finished with that area ,the muscle will replace the damaged area with new tissue.


RADAR
 
bigtravis said:
what kind of inj. schedule does it require?


1ml ed 10 days on 10 days off
I had to skip a day Eod first starting out to get accustomed to the pain. I always made a point to do a few sets of Biceps exercises ED in the gym to circulate the oil.


RADAR
 
RADAR, sounds like from you and Synthetek that you really need to be disciplined and know what you are doing to utilize this stuff. The quotes below are kinda scary sounding:

"We strongly recommend that Syntherol™ users obtain some anatomy charts and study the muscles and the nerves that are in the area that Syntherol™ is to be applied."

"This again will minimise lump formation.
You have to keep in mind, that as soon as lumps form because you did not massage, scar tissue will form as well.
You want to avoid scar tissue at all costs!"


Do you think this is a product really for amateur bodybuilders, or only for those competing?
 
RADAR said:
As some of you might know i experenced a severe biceps tear several yrs ago. Recently i was fortunate to acquire some syntherol from Synthetek Industries.

3 weeks in and i can say i'm impressed.I just hope the end results are as good as right now. It flows easily thru a slin pin with no problems.
And my torn bi is very closely matching my left again.
Those you are thinking of trying this product,Let me say this, It is very important that you massage the muscle thoroughly, Stretching is a must also.I'm running it with Tren <will add Tbol next week Its a safe way to make the gains more 'permanent'.



I would suggest you reading Big A's guidlines before using Syntherol.


Props to Synthetek Industries for an exceptional product!


RADAR


syntherol is very good item. best SEO on market. i used in lagging biceps and made a huge differnce.
 
Well Radar is probably the best candidate for this because he knows his shit, and he's trying to repair a muscle. Keep us posted boss!
 
If someone is willing to put something in thier body with out knowing what to do and is willing to be very disciplined then they desearve what ever happens to them.

That's just my asshole opinion but to someone like me that's just common sense.

Keep us posted because this is the first time I've really heard of someone having any experience with it.
 
krishna said:
Well Radar is probably the best candidate for this because he knows his shit, and he's trying to repair a muscle. Keep us posted boss!





I'll keep this bumped as developments occur.



RADAR
 
How much pain is there? Does it hurt because of the injection itself or because you're bi is not used to having all of that material in there?
 
LT3 said:
How much pain is there? Does it hurt because of the injection itself or because you're bi is not used to having all of that material in there?


It believe the pain the first couple of days comes from the expanding of the muscle fascias the next day was painful esp stretching.
I usually prop a massage wand(like those for back massages)under my arm while i watch TV.
These rest of the time i massage it by hand & stretch.

RADAR
 
zips92 said:
RADAR, sounds like from you and Synthetek that you really need to be disciplined and know what you are doing to utilize this stuff. The quotes below are kinda scary sounding:

You do need to research the areas that you are going to work with, (Very Important!)

zips92 said:
Do you think this is a product really for amateur bodybuilders, or only for those competing?:



Again......this depends upon your goals and what you wish to achieve.

RADAR
 
It believe the pain the first couple of days comes from the expanding of the muscle fascias the next day was painful esp stretching.
I usually prop a massage wand(like those for back massages)under my arm while i watch TV.
These rest of the time i massage it by hand & stretch.

I see, is it more painful when you work bis? also what kind of tear did you have, like yates'?
 
LT3 said:
I see, is it more painful when you work bis? also what kind of tear did you have, like yates'?


Very similar to Yates Except mine tore nerves and left my arm completely useless for almost a year. I eventually regained some use of the arm but it was almost 3 yrs before i achieved 80% strength & mobility out of it.


It is now at 90-95% i'm hoping the extra muscle will push it to 100%.


RADAR
 
RADAR said:
Very similar to Yates Except mine tore nerves and left my arm completely useless for almost a year. I eventually regained some use of the arm but it was almost 3 yrs before i achieved 80% strength & mobility out of it.


It is now at 90-95% i'm hoping the extra muscle will push it to 100%.


RADAR

Wow, I have never heard of someone tearing a nerve along with a muscle. How did you tear it, what were you doing when it happened?
 
maldorf said:
Wow, I have never heard of someone tearing a nerve along with a muscle. How did you tear it, what were you doing when it happened?



Freak accident, i was benching with a recess bar that allows you to go below the chest, the 4th rep it hung half way up just like something stopped it, then suddenly it was like you unplugged something from the wall the weight crashed down on me. I had 2 guys nearby that help get it off of me..........as i got up i noticed my right arm dangling by my side, i could still move my fingers & wrist but when i tried to lift my arm ,Nothing, after the second day i began to worry an sought a Dr. that specialized in these type injuries. The grim News was ,he said if i was a Pro my career would be over.There were several tears in my Delt also.
Hence that stopped my competeing right in its tracks and it happened 2 weeks before Competition time.

The strange part is all the force was on my Tri's & Pecs,delts ,the only thing i can figure is the nerves tearing when the delt ripped had some effect on the bicep.

RADAR
 
OMEGA said:
how did you tear your Bicep and where? :(



Part of the bicep was ripped off i felt it (a lump) right on the outer lower delt region, the Dr said it could not be repaired.


The how answer is above

RADAR
 
RADAR, I certainly don't know your "schedule", and not to intrude on your personal life or anything, but get some sleep bro!!
 
Very similar to Yates Except mine tore nerves and left my arm completely useless for almost a year. I eventually regained some use of the arm but it was almost 3 yrs before i achieved 80% strength & mobility out of it.


It is now at 90-95% i'm hoping the extra muscle will push it to 100%.

WOW, thats crazy. props to you for sticking to bbing and continuing to train after something like that happened, hope the seo works well. good luck bro.
 
LT3 said:
WOW, thats crazy. props to you for sticking to bbing and continuing to train after something like that happened, hope the seo works well. good luck bro.




I am unstoppable. :lightning



RADAR
 
you said you use an insulin pin. how long is the needle? i assumed you had to go really deep into the muscle with this product. i have never seen any long slin pins
 
alltraps said:
you said you use an insulin pin. how long is the needle? i assumed you had to go really deep into the muscle with this product. i have never seen any long slin pins




the pin is 1/2 inch long just right for biceps.I would use a one Inch 27G for most other muscle groups


alltraps said:
is this stuff scheduled? i see that you can order right from the site.

Customs labled the contents of my package ,that Read "synthol" "non hazardous materials"


RADAR
 
Great thread. This is a very controversial topic on this site..but I guess when a guy like radar starts a thread like this...and says he's using it...noone flames him for it. Goes to show that this guy is very well respected..and people truely respect his opinion. So...couple questions first.

1. Are you mixing the tren w/the SEO? ( I think this is a good practice)

2. If you are mixing..will you be using it after the tren..to maintain the new size..and give the muscle time to fill the newly acquired space.

3 Would you suggest people look at www.spotinjections.com for info on site injects.
 
nuthnbutfords said:
Great thread. This is a very controversial topic on this site..but I guess when a guy like radar starts a thread like this...and says he's using it...noone flames him for it. Goes to show that this guy is very well respected..and people truely respect his opinion. So...couple questions first.

1. Are you mixing the tren w/the SEO? ( I think this is a good practice)

2. If you are mixing..will you be using it after the tren..to maintain the new size..and give the muscle time to fill the newly acquired space.

3 Would you suggest people look at www.spotinjections.com for info on site injects.




Good Questions.


1-----Tren is being injected alone

2----- I plan on running tren and another compound (Most likely Test) long after the Synthol Injs are over, I believe this is ample Time to keep new growth forming and calories up!

3----- www.spotinjections.com is a good place to start, i would also recommend starting in getting yourself familiar with the area you are planning on injecting, The local Library is an excellent place or here

http://store.edu-technology.com/anchofhubo.html

RADAR
 
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Ive considered this before for lagging biceps, but Im concerned about nerve damage.

Does using a slin pin mean that I can get away without nerve damage because im only injecting 1/2 inch deep????
 
ANyone (radar?) ever used this for calf injects? Thats always been my one lagging body part when size is the issue. They are plenty strong just genetics allows 9 year old girl scounts to have bigger calves than me. I may have to try this before the next round of "cookies"
 
wayneboard1 said:
ANyone (radar?) ever used this for calf injects? Thats always been my one lagging body part when size is the issue. They are plenty strong just genetics allows 9 year old girl scounts to have bigger calves than me. I may have to try this before the next round of "cookies"



That is one area where care must be taken as there are nerves present.


RADAR
 
wayneboard1 said:
ANyone (radar?) ever used this for calf injects? Thats always been my one lagging body part when size is the issue. They are plenty strong just genetics allows 9 year old girl scounts to have bigger calves than me. I may have to try this before the next round of "cookies"


million dollar question. Its definatley possible. If u own the 25th anniversary of Pumping Iron, watch the special feature "raw Iron"

at he begining of raw iron, Arnold hands the arnold classic trophy to flex wheeler when he won the arnold. TAKE a look at flexs' calves in that shot. His calves are so swollen with synthol that they are the size of arnolds torso. His calves look superhuman.

He shot so much synthol and escilene into his calves with no obvios nerve damage.....i mean flex he still walks fine.
 
RADAR said:
Freak accident, i was benching with a recess bar that allows you to go below the chest, the 4th rep it hung half way up just like something stopped it, then suddenly it was like you unplugged something from the wall the weight crashed down on me. I had 2 guys nearby that help get it off of me..........as i got up i noticed my right arm dangling by my side, i could still move my fingers & wrist but when i tried to lift my arm ,Nothing, after the second day i began to worry an sought a Dr. that specialized in these type injuries. The grim News was ,he said if i was a Pro my career would be over.There were several tears in my Delt also.
Hence that stopped my competeing right in its tracks and it happened 2 weeks before Competition time.

The strange part is all the force was on my Tri's & Pecs,delts ,the only thing i can figure is the nerves tearing when the delt ripped had some effect on the bicep.

RADAR

there is a complex of nerves going through the shoulder called the brachial plexus. It sounds like you injured one of those branches that innervates the biceps muscle. I had some nerve damage in my forearm once, man that hurt like hell. I could not flex my forearm much at all, and made holding any sort of weight just about impossible.
 
hairlossguru said:
million dollar question. Its definatley possible. If u own the 25th anniversary of Pumping Iron, watch the special feature "raw Iron"

at he begining of raw iron, Arnold hands the arnold classic trophy to flex wheeler when he won the arnold. TAKE a look at flexs' calves in that shot. His calves are so swollen with synthol that they are the size of arnolds torso. His calves look superhuman.

He shot so much synthol and escilene into his calves with no obvios nerve damage.....i mean flex he still walks fine.

So you gaurantee I will have calves as big as flex then? ;)
 
hairlossguru said:
million dollar question. Its definatley possible. If u own the 25th anniversary of Pumping Iron, watch the special feature "raw Iron"

at he begining of raw iron, Arnold hands the arnold classic trophy to flex wheeler when he won the arnold. TAKE a look at flexs' calves in that shot. His calves are so swollen with synthol that they are the size of arnolds torso. His calves look superhuman.

He shot so much synthol and escilene into his calves with no obvios nerve damage.....i mean flex he still walks fine.

Amazing you noticed that much detail from that video, but interesting because calves and rear traps are the two areas where I would be interested in SEO, and those sound the scariest if not impossible.

This stuff sounds so intriguing, but much more risky and scary than normal IM injects. RADAR have you done all the injects, rubbing, stretching yourself, or have you had help??
 
zips92 said:
Amazing you noticed that much detail from that video, but interesting because calves and rear traps are the two areas where I would be interested in SEO, and those sound the scariest if not impossible.

This stuff sounds so intriguing, but much more risky and scary than normal IM injects. RADAR have you done all the injects, rubbing, stretching yourself, or have you had help??


I'm doing all the Injs plus massaging and such myself.


RADAR
 
LT3 said:
WOW, i'd never do that.

Agreed bro. But talk about a lagging bodypart........

A lot of nerves around there, and Synthetek does not address traps as an option (I beleive). I wonder if it's ever been done though? Never say never, but no way could someone do it by themselves.

This is going to be an interesting thread I bet for awhile, waiting for results/experiences from RADAR, including me.
 
zips92 said:
Agreed bro. But talk about a lagging bodypart........

A lot of nerves around there, and Synthetek does not address traps as an option (I beleive). I wonder if it's ever been done though? Never say never, but no way could someone do it by themselves.

This is going to be an interesting thread I bet for awhile, waiting for results/experiences from RADAR, including me.

There's a guy on www.muscletalk.co.uk that has done traps succesfully. You will find his account on the Synthetek Sticky thread in the Testosterone forum.
 
RADAR said:
1ml ed 10 days on 10 days off
I had to skip a day Eod first starting out to get accustomed to the pain. I always made a point to do a few sets of Biceps exercises ED in the gym to circulate the oil.


RADAR

It should be:

1ml per muscle head per day for 10 days
2ml per muscle head per day for 10 days
3ml per muscle head per day for 10 days
3ml per muscle head once a week for 6 weeks

Here's my article on proper SEO use:
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Site Enhancing Oils, or 'synthol' as commonly known, are possibly the most controversial subject in bodybuilding. That is because there is a huge amount of miseducation and ignorance on the subject.
I first published the article below on the internet in early 2000, and since then it has been reproduced on countless websites and I have become as a the world most authorotive person on the subject, even consulting in the latest book on the subject written by the 'inventor' of the original SEO, Chris Clark.

In 1996 Chris Clark invented the first SEO (Site Enhancing Oil) and named it 'Synthol'. A quick phone call from brystol-Meyers, who hold the trademark rights on the 'Synthol' name, forced Chris Clark to change the name of his product to PumpNPose. However, the name of synthol was stuck with the bodybuilders.

The most popular now are Synthol/PumpnPose, Syntherol, EsikClean, Nuclear Nutrition Site Oil, Cosmostan and Liquid Muscle.

Synthol/PumpnPose is the original product. As such, it charges a lot of money and it's the most expensive variant as it relies on it's name to sell it - the cheapest found is $149.95. There must be a lot of fakes out there since the inventor of it, Chris Clark, charges a wholesale price of over $100 per bottle (and that's for large quantity), so there's no way that some outfits can retail it for $100. The only official distributor for PnP is www.meso-morph.com

Syntherol is my favourite simply because is the only one that I know of that is made by a real pharmaceutical company, so guaranteed sterile, plus it hurts less and the results seem to be better - don't take my word for it, ask around! It's the same formula as Synthol/PumpnPose, with added silica, which is a safe way to make the gains more 'permanent'. It's very refined, so it flows freely through a 28gauge needle, unlike the others which need as much as 21gauge needles to go through properly!
It's also the number 1 best selling Site Oil in the world, so they must be doing something right! And Synthetek (the maker of Syntherol) is the only company to offer a double money back guarantee and they never had any complaints from any customer from anywhere in the world! By far my choice, plus, it's cheap - $129.95. www.synthetek.com

EsikClean - same formula as Synthol, but it has colagen added. That makes it a very bad choice to use in my opinion. When you use site oils, the biggest problem is the formation of scar tissue. You don't want any scar tissue build up when you use site oils. Scar tissue is colagen buildup due to the trauma caused to the muscle by sticking a needle in there. As such, I would not help the build up of scar tissue in the muscle by injecting colagen. So, that's a bad choice. $100 per bottle www.synthol-direct.com Plus these are the people that counterfited Chris Clark's PnP and Synthetek's Syntherol, so one wonders how 'genuine' they are. Their associated websites are www.synthol.com, www.finalabs.com, www.zoelabs.com, www.pumpnpose.com, www.primolabs.com I strongly recommend that people stay away from them!

Nuclear Nutrition Oil - is a very good product, which works quite well. It's exactly as Syntherol, plus the addition of a small amount of prohormones. I am not a big fan of prohormones due to the reason that they will give you more side effects than benefits. Also, because of the prohormones, you cannot import it into countries like Canada or Australia, where prohormones are illegal. Still a good product - $149.95 www.nuclearnutrition.com

Cosmostan is another one that I recomend that people don't use. It has two anabolic steroids added to it. Because the SEO oil is a very long chain fatty acid, it will wrap itself around the steroid oil, as such not allow the steroid oil to be dissipated timely and for the body to assimilate the steroid. Also, both steroids contained in it are esterified, as such, they would have absolutely zero effect on localised growth as all esterified steroids have to travel to the liver first. Also, because of the steroids contained in it, it is illegal in most places in the world and women cannot use it. On top of all this, it also contains collagen, which as previously mentioned is an extremely bad idea as collagen primary causes scar tissue, exactly what should be avoided during SEO use. I am not sure of the price (never been interested in this product). Available from www.apex-pharmaceuticals.com

Liquid Muscle - same as PumpnPose, but at $199.95 per bottle. However, I can't find too much about it and about who makes it, as it seems as a small outfit and as such I have trouble trusting it 100%, especially when I am supposed to inject their stuff into MY body. They do advertise all over the bodybuilding magazines in the back sections, but that doesn't mean much. www.liquidmuscle.com

There's a ton of other brands, but the above are the most well known. The other brands available, I personally would not trust since they come from very small outfits, so you don't know whether they are sterile, properly manufactured or most likely just mixed together in somebody's 'bathtub'.

Site oils can be used for two purposes - to increase the size of a muscle or to shape a muscle.

To increase size, lets use the biceps for example. You need to inject in EVERY head of the muscle, while rotating the shots daily within that head. This is the only way to ensure that the added size keeps to your natural look/shape of the muscle. The quickest way to get a muscle up to maximum size is to do the following regimen: 1ml for 10 days in each head of the muscle. 2ml for 10 days. 3ml for 10 days. If you do both, the biceps and triceps simultaneously, you can add up to 3" on your arms in those 30 days.
Now, this is VERY IMPORTANT!!!: you HAVE to massage the area that you just injected SEVERELLY! You have to make sure that there's no lump forming. The muscle should always be soft. You should NEVER have a lump. It is also a good idea, to inject just before going to the gym, so as soon as you get to the gym, you should do a couple light weight, high reps sets for that muscle, to get the blood moving. This again will minimise lump formation. You have to keep in mind, that as soon as lumps form because you did not massage, scar tissue will form as well. You want to avoid scar tissue at all costs. Also, to minimise scar tissue build up, use VERY small needles, like 25g or 26g, inch or 1inch long (depending on the injection site) and inject VERY slowly. If you find that you cannot keep with the lump build up, but you are due for another shot, wait until, by massaging, the lump goes away (it should not be more than a couple of days) and then resume from where you left off.

If you have all the size you wish and just want to shape the muscle, as adding a peak on the biceps, then inject the spot, in the peak of the muscle, with 1ml every day or every second day until you obtain the peak that you desire.

What I recommend to people that are just starting out using these oils is to use 1ml per head of muscle per day, or every second day, for a week or so and see how they react to it. That way they can judge how many ml they can use per muscle head and how often.

Where to inject - BICEPS - inner and outer head. You can feel the `split' in between the two heads of the biceps when you feel with your other hand. Inject on each side of that. If you want to increase the length/thickness of the bicep, inject more in the inner head (closer to your body). If you want to increase the peak, inject more in the outer head.

TRICEPS - You don't need to inject in the outer/horseshoe head, unless it is really lacking behind. You inject in the middle and rear heads of the triceps. Generally, at the back of your arm, the upper portion is the rear head and the lower portion is the middle head, as the two heads overlap each other somewhat.

DELTOIDS - just inject straight into whatever head is lacking in size.

CALVES - Natural calves, no matter how big the are, have a `flat' look to the muscle. So you want to keep that look, you don't want to have your calves looking round like someone stuck an air hose in there. So, you inject in multiple shots, on the outside edges of the muscle. That will make the calf go outwards, while keeping the flat, natural look.

QUADS - With muscles this large, you need to do multiple daily injections. Where in the biceps you use 1ml per head per day to begin with, on quads you need to start with 1ml per site, 7 sites per quad. That is to avoid the `lumpy' look and keep the quad uniform. Again, to keep the natural look of the thigh, you should inject in the `peak' of the outer quad, injecting along the crest. If the teardrop is lacking, then just inject straight into it, rotating sites daily. I personally don't recommend quad shots, especially teardrop, due to the very high amount of nerves in the area.

PECS - pecs are a very large, 'flat' type of muscle. As such, the injections have to cover the entire area of the muscle, to 'lift' it at the same time, otherwise a lumpy look will result. I recomend three rows of three shots per pec per day.

I strongly recommend that you get some anatomy charts and study the muscles and the nerves that are in the area that you want to inject.

How do Site Oils work? To begin with, they do not stay in the muscle for 3 to 5 years. They get dissipated within months. However, during this time, they have stretched the fascia of that muscle. The fascia is a great constrictive factor in muscle growth. The more stretched the fascia is the more the muscle will grow and the more it will have that `popping' look. Site oils stay in there long enough for the fascia to stretch. As they dissipate, the `space' left by them is replaced with new muscle tissue growth. That is the reason why when x-rays/MRIs where performed on some of the people that have 25"+ arms, there was no oil found in there. The oil dissipated and it was replaced by real muscle.
The principle is the same as the one behind site shots with steroids, but it works at a much a larger degree, because the Site Oils take that much longer to dissipate.
As well, this is the same principle behind fascial stretching. Howver, it is much more efficient with Site Oils. Best example is to imagine a baloon. You can pull on it and stretch it as much as you want, and you will stretch it a bit. But if you fill it with a liquid, you will be able to stretch it to a much larger degree than just pulling on it from the outside. This is the best way to compare the efficiency of fascial stretching versus using Site Oils.

Pain - obviously, any site shot hurts. The pain will minimise the more you inject, until it will not hurt any more. Site Oils hurt, but not as much as site injections with, lets say, Sustanon or Testosterone Propionate. However, as I said, they will hurt less and less the more you use them.

Dangers - Site Oils are safe, if certain precautions are taken, same as when injecting anything else. You always have to aspirate. Always! You DO NOT want the oil to go in a vein. Always massage the area after the shot so scar tissue build up doesn't occur. And most importantly - USE COMMON SENSE! If you have 16" arms, don't think that you will have 23" in 5 weeks! Because if you try that, you will end up with deformed looking muscles and you will be the laughing stock of the world. On a side note, people like Greg Valentino have implants, not SEO's in their muscles. It is physiologically impossible to look like these guys do with SEOs. Hopefully that puts that myth to rest.

Site Oils are there to help you break past a plateau. If your genetics indicate that you are 242 with 5% bf, but you only have 18" arms, then Site Oils will help you bring your arms in proportion.
All that I am saying is that Site Oils are there to aid the work that you do in the gym, not replace it!
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To who asked earlier - it is not a good idea ot mix the Syntherol with gear (tren, etc) as the Syntherol could theoretically 'wrap' itself around the gear oil, and interfere with absorbtion of the gear.

And about calves - painful to most until they get used to them. This is a pic of my calves - no SEO shots for 4 years, and I haven't actually trained them properly in about 2 years, and this is what they still look like:
 
Basically high grade posing oil...Suppost to last longer, make muscle alastic like..Your a braver man then i ! Heard of someone dieing in the past from posing oils and he knew what he was doing..But to each his own i guess..Kind of falls in line with this bead stuff you shoot in muscle and new muscle grows over it..I guess if its worth the risk to you then good luck with it radar...
 
Ozz2001 said:
Heard of someone dieing in the past from posing oils and he knew what he was doing.

What's his name? What was the official cause of death? Did you see the coroner's report?

Injecting SEO's is not any more dangerous than injecting normal oily steroids.
 
Didnt sarcev have a scare coz he thought his SEO made its way to his heart? dont mean to sound like an ass, its just what i read.
 
LT3 said:
Didnt sarcev have a scare coz he thought his SEO made its way to his heart? dont mean to sound like an ass, its just what i read.

This is first hand info - he used Esik-Clean (crap dirty brand, can't speak badly enough of it) and he had an anaphylactic shock from impurities (dirt) in it.

Don't get me wrong, you can die from SEO's. Just as much as you can die from injecting testosterone. You can die from a severe pulmonary embolism (very rare) or from anaphylactic shock because you are introducing a new substance in the body. However, the risk does not increase if you inject Syntherol instead of testosterone. The risk is the same when you inject anything!
 
the real big a said:
This is first hand info - he used Esik-Clean (crap dirty brand, can't speak badly enough of it) and he had an anaphylactic shock from impurities (dirt) in it.

Don't get me wrong, you can die from SEO's. Just as much as you can die from injecting testosterone. You can die from a severe pulmonary embolism (very rare) or from anaphylactic shock because you are introducing a new substance in the body. However, the risk does not increase if you inject Syntherol instead of testosterone. The risk is the same when you inject anything!


Very well stated! This is true with anything you inject into your body as BigA has mentioned.


Radar glad to see you post your synthol experience. We need more people like you telling it from first hand experience.


Mr.Huge
 
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you guys think this was an experiment too?

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exidous said:
you guys think this was an experiment too?

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to answer your question, It is obvious this guy was not experimenting. He is obviously a uneducated person who probably has mental incapabilities.

Anyone can see this guy has a major infection in his arms from how red/heated and swollen they are.

If he was stupid enough to keep injecting into a irritated area as such then he rightfully deserves to be laughed at and ridiculed. Regardless, this could have occurred from gear usage, defective implants, or from any injectable substance abuse. No normal person would allow themselves to reach that level of being unconfortable.

So, no I do not think this was a experiment. I think it was plain selfishness, stupidity, and he probably has some sort of vision impairment or disability which allows him to think that he was practicing something positive so he continued with it til he made a fool of himself. Yes some people are not all there.


Mr.Huge
 
the real big a said:
To who asked earlier - it is not a good idea ot mix the Syntherol with gear (tren, etc) as the Syntherol could theoretically 'wrap' itself around the gear oil, and interfere with absorbtion of the gear.

And about calves - painful to most until they get used to them. This is a pic of my calves - no SEO shots for 4 years, and I haven't actually trained them properly in about 2 years, and this is what they still look like:

would you have any good examples of before and after use? what did your calf look like before use?
 
what about using it for lat shoulders?
 
hairlossguru said:
one last question. When injecting into a muscle group, say biceps, does the muscle have to flexed or relaxed?



relaxed!

RADAR
 
the real big a said:
Those are implants. And they look to be very shortly after the surgery, due to the amount of inflamation in the area.

Now I know where my mailbox went :)

Good luck with the repair Radar. I can't imagine what a tear like that would be like.
 
the real big a said:
That is the second most common place after arms.

Generally, this is the order of 'common':
1. arms
2. delts
3. calves
4. chest
5. quads
6. everything else

When you did your calves did you inject in both heads, and also did you just do one run with it, or did you continue it for an extended period of time
 
alltraps said:
would you have any good examples of before and after use? what did your calf look like before use?

I'd have to dig them up as this is before digital cameras, etc, so there's no pre pics on my computer.

They were 18" before usage and now they are 20". BTW, I trained them for the first time in years, 2 days ago and I can't bloody walk! LOL
 
wgarrett said:
When you did your calves did you inject in both heads, and also did you just do one run with it, or did you continue it for an extended period of time

Yes, both heads, on the outer 'edge' of the muscle head. Only did one run with it.
 
the real big a said:
Yes, both heads, on the outer 'edge' of the muscle head. Only did one run with it.

What is the smallest size needle you can use with syntherol? Can a 25 or 27 gauge pin be used?
 
paridhm said:
What is the smallest size needle you can use with syntherol? Can a 25 or 27 gauge pin be used?

Syntherol is the most refined SEO that exists. It flows freely through anything as small as 28g.

By comparison, you need a 21g to get the PnP through.
 
Update! Leave it to my dearest brother to damage my digital camera so no pics (Sorry Guys)
but i am extremely satified of the outcome . my bicep it is now about 1/2 inch larger than my good one so i'm leaving it right there ,the best way to explain it is that it looks like i have bloat in the bicep ,this is normal and will go away over a peroid of time but i must say it has a nice peak to it that i hope to maintain.
I Highly Recommend this product to bring us lagging body parts ,just take it nice & slow and don't go overboard.

RADAR
 
radar, do you think someone like me who has only taken 3 cycles and am still growing off test and other aas would have any use for this. my left bi is clearly not as big as my right and i would like to change that, but do you think i am better off continuing to train hard. i am only 24. its very tempting but i want you honest opinion if i should wait till i cannot get my arm bigger
 
bruce410 said:
radar, do you think someone like me who has only taken 3 cycles and am still growing off test and other aas would have any use for this. my left bi is clearly not as big as my right and i would like to change that, but do you think i am better off continuing to train hard. i am only 24. its very tempting but i want you honest opinion if i should wait till i cannot get my arm bigger



Big A Could answer that more clearly than me ,but i'll still give you my opinion yes you would benefit from it esp while on gear as it stretches the muscle Fracias allowing room for new growth.

RADAR
 
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