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My Short-cycle experiment...

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bigerisbetter said:
I just started my first short cycle a few days ago. I will be doing

100mg ed of test prop
75mg ed of fina
30 mg ed d-bol

I will run this for three weeks. I will take 5 weeks off and start again. What would be the ideal post cycle plan for my cycle. I was thinking clomid and nolva for three weeks, starting 2 days after last shot.

well the whole idea behind a short cycle is to avoid clomids. Try some Maca, proviron, Avena sativa, tribulus....

BTW I like this one. I know Nelson will disagree since you included Fina but anyway, I believe that Fina used smartly is a good choice.
 
DeepZenPill said:


Just a side note, Masteron is a very strong androgen, not really an anabolic.

Thanks for the clarification but your statement is not totally accurate although has merit. Masteron is a DHT, which is very androgenic. However, it does not form estrogen so the same androgenic side effects that would apply to test, D-bol and EQ do not necessarily apply to Masteron. Let's highlight some characteristics:

Androgenic Effects of Steroids:

Acne
Voice Deepening
Increased Body Hair
Increased Facial Hair

Anabolic Effects:

Virility, Vitality
Increased Strength
Increasing Muscle Size
Enhanced Muscle Recovery

Ok, now let's take a look at Masteron.

1) cannot form estrogen
2) reduction of estrogenic capacity makes it ill-suited for use as a mass-builder
3) increases strength while keeping body-fat the same or even lowering it
4) increase muscle hardness and density
5)

Side effects:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catmast.htm

When discussing the side-effects, for once I'm going to go easy. This is because most people are well aware of the side-effects of DHT compounds and scared to death of them because androgenic side-effects caused by mass compounds like testosterone are largely attributed to the formation of DHT at the 5AR receptor enzyme. This may be a time to step back and look what sort of damage DHT can realistically do. An increase in acne is almost always noted, but if that doesn't seem to bother you with other steroids, then why with a short-acting androgen like drostanolone ? Hair loss seems to be the major concern, but if you've dealt with the use of steroids before or are educated to their effects you are aware that it merely speeds up a genetically pre-existing condition of male pattern hair loss (androgenetic alopecia). This condition only occurs in 30% of men and can easily be detected by examining the men on your mother's side of the family. Androgenetic alopecia is passed on through the X chromosome and thus in matri-linear fashion (mothers side). The rule of thumb being quite simple : if you have it, don't touch this compound, if you don't, then you don't have to worry. Yes, it really can be that simple.

That only leaves benign prostate hypertrophy (enlarged prostate) and the related conditions such as prostate cancer. Recent evidence shows that estrogen too is a mediator in the development of this condition, which would lead us to draw the conclusion that a purely androgenic compound, lest taken with a highly aromatizing substance, has considerably less risk for aggravating such a condition than DHT formed by testosterone. These last two paragraphs to show that perhaps the side-effects of DHT are largely exaggerated. But that doesn't mean they just went away because I said so, extreme caution needs to be exercised by individuals at risk for hair loss and prostate problems. But to add one last bit of perspective, keep in mind that this compound is injected and spread across the body evenly. When DHT is formed by testosterone, its formed in androgen specific tissues, meaning its mostly concentrated in scalp, skin and prostate, which isn't the case here.
 
Nelson Montana said:


Ideally, I'd do it this way, if you want to avoid sides.

25mgs of d-bol and 25mgs of var ED.

Igm of T is too much. If you do that, you're going to be supressed and need an anti e.

I'll keep it simple. Alternate days of 100mgs of test and 100mgs of primo fo two weeks, then drop the test.

On the third week, alternate the winny with the primo.

After the third week, do the proviron for another week along with the PF "Post-Cycle" (or comparable ingredients) and some avena for another 2 weeks.

Dude, if you eat enough protein and train like an animal, you're going to be hard as nails with no crash. Trust me.

Ok, now I'm confused. Here's what I have:

1 - 50ml jug of BDL Testo 500
800 - 5mg D-bol
1 - 20ml vial of Anavar - 50mg's/ml
1 - 20ml vial of Profina - 75mg's of fina, 100mg's opf Prop/ml
1 - 20ml vial of Winstrol 50mg's/ml
24 - 100mg's Primo amps
1 - 20ml vial of Masteron 100mg's/ml

I'm on day three of this three week cycle, which is now looking more and more like an 8-10 cycle. So far, I've done 1 injection of Testo 500 and 50mg's ed of D-bol. What now?
 
Frontload of 250mg Sust then Primo/Winny for 3 weeks. If you won't do it gimme that stuff and I'll do it myself.
LOL
 
Dial_tone said:
Frontload of 250mg Sust then Primo/Winny for 3 weeks. If you won't do it gimme that stuff and I'll do it myself.
LOL

Sure thing. I don't have Sust though nor am I going to order it. I have more than enough gear to complete this little experiment. Primo is on the way. I'll frontload the Testo 500 (1gm), which besides the Prop, is a long acting ester and will replace it with Primo starting next week. I might swap out the D-bol for Anavar after this first week is over. The D-bol is giving me the shits anyway.
 
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