My First Cycle

[fangz]

Hey guys,

as the title states, this will be my first cycle, i live in australia and gear is pretty hard to get a hold of here, but i managed to get a hold of:

10ml deca 250
10ml eq 250
10ml test prop 200
10ml super test 300
all by thai phoenix

I have been training for almost 2 years now, Im 24 years old, weigh around 135-140 pounds prob around 10-12% body fat

i put a cycle together and i would like to hear what u guys think.....

week 1-10 super test @300mg week
week 2-11 eq @250mg week
week 4-9 deca @500mg week (wk 4&9 250mg)
week 4-9 test prop @400mg week (wk4&9 200mg)

i will be injecting twice a week (wk 4&9)

so, there it is, my first cycle.

thanks guys,
Fangz

 

[rambleon]

Hi bro

How tall are u?

Reason i'm asking is that i can't help thinking that 140 lbs sounds like u have a ways to go yet before u reach ur natural potential. If u start aas use before reaching that potential there is a price:
U will in all proability need aas to grow from then on. An since keeping gains from cycles is demanding (even experienced users keep only a percentage) u might end up needing aas to maintain a level u could've reached naturally if u'd been patient in the first place.

Think about it. Ur stash will keep several years so no worries there.

On the other hand if u insist on taking the plunge now the first run should be something like:

1-8 super test 300 mg ew (split into 2 injections)

On a first run it's considered a good idea to limit it to one compound so that if problems occur u'll know their source an be able to take corrective action.

Save the deca and such for later. The test alone will yield great results if ur diet's on point.

Anyways good luck man.

 

[*The_West*]

140lbs? sorry to be frank with you, but step away from the juice. steroids should not be seen as a shortcut, or easy route, to a more muscular physique. they are a tool an already advanced/highly trained athlete can use to take their sport/physique to the next level.
you say you have been training for 2 years, how much did you weigh before you started?

 

[fangz]

i weighed about 117pounds (53kg) before i stared working out and as far as height im 5' 10''
i have a good diet (steak, chicken, veggies ect) and just cant put on the pounds.

this is not a short cut for me but as a potential to put on some weight

ill put up some pics of my self and my gear

 

[*The_West*]

i weighed about 117pounds (53kg) before i stared working out and as far as height im 5' 10''
i have a good diet (steak, chicken, veggies ect) and just cant put on the pounds.

this is not a short cut for me but as a potential to put on some weight

ill put up some pics of my self and my gear

you're diet can be as "good" as you like, but if you're not eating enough of it, you wont grow, simple as.
i take it you, like me, are an ectomorph. the amount of calories needed to grow, and maintain, is huge. start by posting up a typical days diet, and i bet you anything you could put on another 10-15 lbs in 12 weeks just by eating more.
you ARE looking at steroids as a shortcut, do you realise that unless you really know how to eat/train for mass gain, you will eventually lose whatever mass you gain on steroids.

 

[fangz]

you're diet can be as "good" as you like, but if you're not eating enough of it, you wont grow, simple as.
i take it you, like me, are an ectomorph. the amount of calories needed to grow, and maintain, is huge. start by posting up a typical days diet, and i bet you anything you could put on another 10-15 lbs in 12 weeks just by eating more.
you ARE looking at steroids as a shortcut, do you realise that unless you really know how to eat/train for mass gain, you will eventually lose whatever mass you gain on steroids.

ok,

breakfast, cup of oats with milk or cerial + weight gain shake
snack, subway footlong italian bmt or rice with chicken
lunch, either steak or chicken with veggies (broc, cart, cul flr, peas)
snack, yogurt or nuts with weight gain shake (before gym)
after gym, shake (cycle creatine every 2months or so)
dinner, maybe pasta or something like lunch

and sometimes i have a third shake

 

[fangz]

ok here are some pictures of myself and the gear

i know, i know.........im skinny, lol

 

[rambleon]

looking at those i concur with west:

Step away from the juice and look to your diet.

 

[*The_West*]

breakfast 8 am- 6 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 4 rashers of bacon
pre lunch 10 am- 150g tin of tuna
lunch 12 pm- 200g chicken breast, brown rice
2pm- pasta(pre workout carbs) with some form of protein in there
post workout- 50g oats, 100g peanut butter, 6 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, a litre of milk (blitz in a blender)
post workout meal 4 30 pm- 200g chicken breast, brown rice
dinner 6 30 pm-steak, new potatoes, green beans
late dinner 8 30 pm- chicken breast sandwich
last meal 10 30 pm- omelette, 4 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, cheese and ham
although i do hear a lot of people using cottage cheese for their last meal, as it contains casein, a form of slow released protein.

when bulking i like to keep a protein shake and a bottle of water next to my bed, so when i wake up at about 4am (like i usually do) i just mix it up, down it, go back to sleep.

this is just an example of a diet. obviously, times would probably be different for you, but are you starting to see how much food you need to grow? people vastly underestimate this, get shit results and think "oh this isnt working, i need steroids to grow" when 9 times out of 10 it is a matter of getting their diet sorted.
as an ectomorph, you really are looking at upwards of 3500cals a day, at least 250g protein, up to 500g carbs, maybe 100g fat (from nuts, oily fish, avocado etc)

 

[fangz]

breakfast 8 am- 6 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 4 rashers of bacon
pre lunch 10 am- 150g tin of tuna
lunch 12 pm- 200g chicken breast, brown rice
2pm- pasta(pre workout carbs) with some form of protein in there
post workout- 50g oats, 100g peanut butter, 6 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, a litre of milk (blitz in a blender)
post workout meal 4 30 pm- 200g chicken breast, brown rice
dinner 6 30 pm-steak, new potatoes, green beans
late dinner 8 30 pm- chicken breast sandwich
last meal 10 30 pm- omelette, 4 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, cheese and ham

good stuff, ill give it a go...... my salsa partner is gonna love the extra eggs lol