Not to be a total ass, but what's the point to keep bumping this 35 year old thread? Getting to sound like a Muscle Tech ad, and we don't want that......It's great to know that T-Rex works and I love the stuff, however, the does ephedrine hcl, ripped fuel extreme, xenadrine, etc...........and if you don't want the excess drugs, you can easily lose 25lbs dieting alone.....providing you have 25lbs of fat in the first place..........