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Making changes to how Karma works - we want your feedback.

I don't know why but this much thought being put into karma makes me want to drop my membership.
I come to the site to support others with their dieting, bodybuilding etc.
Karma is fun. When I see it given this much attention it gives me the impression the site is not what I thought it was.
That is just my innitial response.
 
How can Elite take 10% on a bet and call it the juice. Unless you bookie the event you are risking nothing and therefor have no right to the juice. It doesn't make any sense.
 
1. Karma Bookie: We need to make this more like a real world sports book by adding 10% juice to the amounts wagered. The juice goes to the house, in this case EF.

So, figurtively speaking, if you bet ATS on a game and a bookie has the even as 9/10, for every 10 karma you spend, you'll get 9 back. Now, if we get taxed an additional 10%, what point is there is betting on any event with 20% juice? I don't like the idea because the bookie, 4everhung, redguru, swole, and myself included, have already figured in the juice in every day odds.

2. Everyone needs to be able to have fun with Karma immediately when they join EF, so we can raise the number of hits you get when you register from 10 to 100.

Sounds reasonable

3. Because of inflation, when you buy Karma, currently your money does not get you enough. We'll keep prices the same, but you'll get much more Karma when you invest in it. For example:

5000 Hits plus 5000 Platinum Bonus - Your Price: $9.97
Karma - 20,000 Hits plus 20,000 Platinum Bonus - Your Price: $19.97
Karma - 50,000 Hits plus 50,000 Platinum Bonus - Your Price: $39.97
Karma - 150,000 Hits plus 150,000 Platinum Bonus! - Your Price: $98.97
Karma - 30,000 Hits plus 30,000 Platinum Bonus - Billed Month to Month - Your Price: $19.97

ok

4. When your Platinum Membership renews, you need to get much more Karma for every month you invest in. For example, every monthly renewal, you get 5000 Karma hits. There will be bigger bonuses for renewing at longer intervals.

How about those who invested in lifetime plat? Do we get an additional 5K per month?

5. We will open a Karma Casino and finally bring you Karma Poker. (We are sorry this is taking so long - the problem is that we are having trouble finding good software.)

6. When you give someone Karma, you are giving them your own Karma, not minting more. Remember, since you get much more on Platinum Membership renewals and since it will effectively cost less if you buy it, this will be less of a sting. Non-Plats, would have 2 x Karmic Power subtracted from their total Karma Hits. Plats would have 1 x Karmic Power plus a 5% tax subtracted from Karma Hits. Another thing to remember is that Plats can still hit for between 10% and 110% of Karmic Power, so if your Plat, and you want to reward someone for a quality post, you can hit as little as 10% of your Karmic Power and won't feel a big dent in your war chest. Those with 0 Karmic Power would hit gray like they do now. This should also help us get back to hitting members only when they post something that is really quality. Things remain as they are now for Chairman Members including their hitting for 200% Karmic Power.

Ok

7. Karma Bonds: We will sell Karma Bonds in the Karma Store. You can buy bonds for any amount of Karma you choose and for any number of months you choose. When your Karma Bonds mature, they will be worth 1% more for every month you held the bond for. Here's an example, you buy a 1 million Karma Bond and hold it for 1 year. When it matures, you get 1,120,000 Karma Hits.

Interesting

8. Adjust the Karma Point Factor. Right now, for every 4000 points of Karma for Non-Plats and 2000 hits of Karma for Plats, you gain 1 point of Karmic Power. We can raise the requirement.



9. Move the decimal point two place to the left for members with more than 1,000 Karma. This should really not make anyone upset since everyone's Karma is impacted equally.



10. Allow members to buy 1 year bonds and run a huge Karma Lottery before the decimal place is moved - with the award to be paid out after the change. You buy lottery tickets @ 1 Karma Hit = 1 ticket. From the amount of tickets bought, 30% of the total goes to 1st place, 20% to second place, 10% to third place. Your chance of winning is in proportion to the number of tickets you buy.

11. Sell limited edition EF T-Shirts for 500,000 Karma Hits plus $4.99 shipping and handling.

Pics of said shirts woul be cool but for 500,000, it better come in leather
 
black sheep said:
I like #6 the best... Oh wait.. That is because it was MY IDEA :)

What happens if someone Red's you? Do you get their "k" in the amount of your "k" power?
It would not make sense if you didn't. Where would it go otherwise?
 
slat1 said:
What happens if someone Red's you? Do you get their "k" in the amount of your "k" power?
It would not make sense if you didn't. Where would it go otherwise?


I did not think of that.. Give me some time to chew on it..
 
I like the karma casino (lot's of people will definately have less K)
Not sure that taxing the bookies does any good
K prices are still a bit too high. Make it much mroe affordable and I bet K sales will greatly increase.

None of your other ideas really address the stated problem.

The only one I see that sort of makes sense and alleviates the problem for a while is moving the decimal over three places making 1000 = 1
 
LOL at slat asking 3 questions about K after saying he can't believe people care about it so much.

Slat, just think if we didn't have K...That would seriously cut down on your E-flirting ability.
 
You could change #6 so it won't hurt as much by taking only half the amount of hits from our own Karma.

If i hit someone for 1600 then only charge me 800.
 
SoreArms said:
I like the karma casino (lot's of people will definately have less K)
Not sure that taxing the bookies does any good
K prices are still a bit too high. Make it much mroe affordable and I bet K sales will greatly increase.

None of your other ideas really address the stated problem.

The only one I see that sort of makes sense and alleviates the problem for a while is moving the decimal over three places making 1000 = 1

Easy for the wealthy to say...but some of us arent as priviledged...

I dont like it all...will definitely consider dropping my plat
 
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