Liver Problem ??

[Fatboy1984]

Doc says my liver is enlarged and liver enzymes are high. Im triing to find the exact cause.
Ive only done two cycles. they had about 15 weeks off in the middle of them.

1-10 Sust 500mg ew
1-8 Deca 400mg ew
1-4 Beastrol

Cycle 2
1-8 Test Prop 700mg ew
1-7 Tren Ace 75mg ed
5-7 Oral Winny 50mg ed

Both cycles had great PCT and time in between.
I have also been on HGH @ 6iu's ed with sat,sun off. for about 3 months

I have a hard time believing that the winny for such a short time has done this to my liver. And ive been off cycle for about 7 weeks. Im thinking it could be the HGH since it messes with IGF levels? what should i do? I was gonna start another cycle soon, but now im worried. Im taking needtos liver support right now. and took milk thistle during the cycles.

 

[RADAR]

Tren will do it,Beastdrol didn't help things did you drink a gallon of water ED and take Cranberry Extract along with liver protectors and ALA?


I bet the answer is no?

Well you're in luck the liver is the only organ that can repair it self. Providing you take care of it.
its not too late to stock up on H20,and the other things i mentioned,add a multi-vit/mineral in there also.

 

[theemperor]

Solid post Radar!!! With the Beast, water is very important as well with the others.

 

[Fatboy1984]

I was just taking needto's liver support and triing to drink as much H20 as possible. So you guys dont think its the HGH?
Would it kill me to run an all injectable cycle with it like this? if i pamper it like crazy afterwards. Sucks cause im goin on a cruise soon and wanted to do a cycle right before... but would also like to live

 

[Fatboy1984]

any other advise? How serioius is an enlarged liver?

 

[ALIN]

Doc says my liver is enlarged and liver enzymes are high. Im triing to find the exact cause.
Ive only done two cycles. they had about 15 weeks off in the middle of them.

1-10 Sust 500mg ew
1-8 Deca 400mg ew
1-4 Beastrol

Cycle 2
1-8 Test Prop 700mg ew
1-7 Tren Ace 75mg ed
5-7 Oral Winny 50mg ed

Both cycles had great PCT and time in between.
I have also been on HGH @ 6iu's ed with sat,sun off. for about 3 months

I have a hard time believing that the winny for such a short time has done this to my liver. And ive been off cycle for about 7 weeks. Im thinking it could be the HGH since it messes with IGF levels? what should i do? I was gonna start another cycle soon, but now im worried. Im taking needtos liver support right now. and took milk thistle during the cycles.

Get yourself a liver protectant quickly like Synthergine. Ive seen it work on numerous athletes through proof of drastically improved blood work.

 

[Fatboy1984]

Thanks for the info.. thats actually one ive never heard of or tried. But do you, or anyone else think that its any better that needto's liver product? Should i take needto's more than just twice a day?

 

[RADAR]

Take more wouldn't hurt add Cranberry Extract,ALA,A Mulit- vit/mineral, and another type of Milk Thistle.



RADAR

 

[2evil]

I've read good things about Synthergine. It's injectable so that's different for this kind of product.

However, I would stop taking everything - except the cranberry extract. Liver sups are important but can also raise levels on their own. The ingredients are processed by the liver like anything else and can appear to stress the liver even when they're doing good.

As a matter of fact, I'd start with fresh berries and skip the extract. Like a half pound of them per day. I'd also level w/ your doc or at least tell him that you used an OTC supplement like the Beast.

How did he determine that your liver is enlarged?

 

[2evil]

Oh, and the most important thing here is time. Take some time off and let your liver heal. It will! Livers are remarkable (and tasty!)

 

[Fatboy1984]

haha. Thanks again guys. Ive been blending up a bunch of fresh cranberrys in the blender and drinking them. If in acouple months that doesnt work ill try that synthergine stuff. They verifyed it was enlarged my ultrasound.

 

[DrGrier]

Thanks for the info.. thats actually one ive never heard of or tried. But do you, or anyone else think that its any better that needto's liver product? Should i take needto's more than just twice a day?

You said you were taking needto's liver product and look were it got you.
I would definitely stop everything until your liver levels are normal.

 

[Nelson Montana]

No orals!

No booze!

Limit saturated fat!

POST CYCLE, Liv 52, Liver support.

Water.

Time.

 

[Nelson Montana]

No orals!

No booze!

Limit saturated fat!

POST CYCLE, Liv 52, Forged Liver support.

Water.

Time.

 

[joe d]

the liver problem is serous. you need to stop any and all orals sups aswell. drink lots of water, eat large handfuls of a mix of berries cranberries being 50% of the mix 4 or more times per day. 8-10 times would be better. also work with your doctor to get things beck in check. a sup like lipid stable, needto's liver sup, or liv52 would probably a good addition but just use one of them.

 

[Quadsweep]

I would not do a cycle again until you know the deal. That cycle IMHO was pretty light to cause such liver stress. Get healthy first man.

Jeff

 

[HAYEZ]

beastdrol and winny is the problem,orals are bad for your liver no doubt about it..this is why i dont use them

tren isnt liver toxic thats a myth..ive had liver checked while on tren and there was no elavation after 6 months of useing it

 

[joe d]

beastdrol and winny is the problem,orals are bad for your liver no doubt about it..this is why i dont use them

tren isnt liver toxic thats a myth..ive had liver checked while on tren and there was no elavation after 6 months of useing it

that is true to a digree but tren is toxic to your urinary track and your respiratory system.

 

[genetics]

I used to be a daily drinker into serious booze and was like that for 10 solid years lol and that obviously had taken its toll on my liver, which incidentally i didn't at that point in time realize...

When i started AAS, and did my first ever dbol only cycle, my liver hurt like a mofo and values were elevated. And this, after i had quit booze and was a non drinker for almost 7 years!!

Then, i realized i needed a permanent liver supplement and needed to consume water seriously to keep flushing the system. I started thaking 1 liv52 DS tab everyday and started drinking 6 litres of water daily. Yes, 6 litres counted and consumed.

B0oth together have done wonders for me and today my values are bang on normal.

A word of caution though. Please choose ONE liver supplement and run that alone. Donot run multiple liver supps as they too have to pass the live and too much isn't always too good. Ask needto

Best luck.