Lifeguard saves life; Corporation he works for fires him

[shirlene29]

what jojo said...even before there were protections in place on off suty any one of us (my and people I worked with) would risk being sued, hurt, killed

 

[-SD-]

but tey're weren't being stupid. They absolutely have a point about the liability issue.

But SD, if there were no rules governing liability then said lifeguard could have looked at someone drowning even in his own sector of responsability and said "nah, not today...don't feel like it had alot to drink last night". Sure the corp would still fire him but there would be ZERO avenues of restitution from someone who entered that area under an implied contract that competent people were on watch. If a little daughter of yours died because some dooshbag got drunk on his job you'd want to kill someone, but I guess somewhere along the line people decided that everybody killing each other over incompetent actions wasn't the best way to a stable society and implimented a court system for grievances to be heard. Dude we figured this one out like 2-3000 B.C

Dude, that would be criminal negligence. Those laws are certainly on the books already.

 

[redsamurai]

I guarantee you they will go help a drowning person. It's not just a job to these people, it's in their blood to help and save lives.

We'll see, you have more faith in humanity than I do. Are there guys that will still stick their neck out there, of course. I'm just playin the odds and I think I got the house beat on that one cause humans rarely disappoint in that respect.

 

[redsamurai]

Dude, that would be criminal negligence. Those laws are certainly on the books already.

So is the argument yu're making an anti civil court one?

 

[*ebony*]

Lifeguards in Hallandale Beach work for Orlando-based company Jeff Ellis and Associates, which has been providing lifeguard services for the city's beaches and pools since 2003.

Company officials on Tuesday said Lopez broke a rule that could've put beachgoers in his designated area in jeopardy. The firm could ultimately have been sued, officials said.

"We have liability issues and can't go out of the protected area," said supervisor Susan Ellis. "What he did was his own decision. He knew the company rules and did what he thought he needed to do."

Lopez said he was sitting at his post at about 1:45 p.m. Monday when someone rushed to his stand asking for help. Lopez said he noticed a man struggling in the water south of his post. The man was previously swimming in an "unprotected" stretch of the beach, city officials confirmed Tuesday.

"It was a long run, but someone needed my help. I wasn't going to say no," he said.

Company officials said the rescue took place about 1,500 feet south of the company's protective boundaries. The unprotected area has signs alerting beachgoers to swim at their own risk. sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/hallandale/fl-hallandale-beach-lifeguards-20120703,0,5326638.story

heartwarming

 

[nefertiti]

We'll see, you have more faith in humanity than I do. Are there guys that will still stick their neck out there, of course. I'm just playin the odds and I think I got the house beat on that one cause humans rarely disappoint in that respect.

he's correct.

It becomes instinct. He'll do the same again.

 

[ceo]

they offered the guy his job back. He refused.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...trying-to-rescue-man-is-offered-job-back?lite

 

[JoJo1980]

We'll see, you have more faith in humanity than I do. Are there guys that will still stick their neck out there, of course. I'm just playin the odds and I think I got the house beat on that one cause humans rarely disappoint in that respect.

Oh I totally agree with you that humanity has gone to shit but those that do save lives for a living are a bit different. You do have a great argument though.

 

[JoJo1980]

they offered the guy his job back. He refused.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...trying-to-rescue-man-is-offered-job-back?lite

Good for him!!!

 

[shirlene29]

super bad publicity now even if they were technically in the right

thats why there is "mutual aid" within ambulance and fire dept areas...to avoid these kinds of problems and liabilities

and RS, you're wrong...even bad emergency personnel will respond ...good emergency personnel will walk through fire to find anyone..most will even risk themselves to save your pets...which is actually where I draw the line in some instances

a few experienced people will say...drive past a mv accident if it looks mild because they have the experience to know no one is seriously hurt
I have jumped into the river instantly on my lunch break (though the area did happen to be in our territory) to save a drowning boy- to be fair I swim very well
I have sprinted to burning wrecks to get people out of a tractor trailer on fire...an old cutlass on fire and to reach in to an intensely burning car to cut the seat belt that was actually melting into the skin of an elderly woman
that one was incredibly bizarre..mild accident gone horrible awry when the fuel shut off didnt work as intended_..one I was on duty for but the fire dept wasn't there yet and the rest i was driving by minding my own business
Ive put my bare hands on the severed brachial artery of some teenager that punched out a car window...because I didnt have a kit or gloves ...then wrapped it in some dudes t-shirt that offered it up
CPR for 15 minutes on the side of the road for some school bus driver that had a fuggin MI while driving the bus and all I saw were cops runnin around like chickens with their heads cut off

^^^ while off duty
below while on duty

Ive been shot at in the course of duty, had a pool cue broken across my back, been attacked by more dementia patients and psyche patients than I care to think about
spit on...had blood flung at me intentionally ..and a few other fun moments with bodily fluids...have angry patients with head injuries swing at me..more drunks than I can count do any number of bullshit things and even had a incredibly drunk teenage girl (with diabetes which complicates things) grab my tits...and held the hands of more people while they slipped away and there wasn't a fuckin thing I could do about including people I knew well

I averaged more than 500 911 only calls a year between the munip and the commercial service and in my spare time volunteered in training of emt's , paramedics, taught cpr classes and attended public awareness events and I was not by any means exceptional...you are simply dead wrong redsam

dead wrong
emergency people are never off duty