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(AP) — Libya's transitional leader declared his country's liberation on Sunday, three days after the hated dictator Moammar Gadhafi was captured and killed.

He called on Libyans to show "patience, honesty and tolerance" and eschew hatred as they embark on rebuilding the country at the end of an 8-month civil war.

The transitional government leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil set out a vision for the post-Gadhafi future with an Islamist tint, saying that Islamic Sharia law would be the "basic source" of legislation in the country and that existing laws that contradict the teachings of Islam would be nullified. In a gesture that showed his own piety, he urged Libyans not to express their joy by firing in the air, but rather to chant "Allahu Akbar," or God is Great. He then stepped aside and knelt to offer a brief prayer of thanks.

"This revolution was looked after by God to achieve victory," he told the crowd at the declaration ceremony in the eastern city of Benghazi, the birthplace of the uprising against Gadhafi began. He thanked those who fell in the fight against Gadhafi's forces. "This revolution began peacefully to demand the minimum of legitimate rights, but it was met by excessive violence."

Abdul-Jalil said new banks would be set up to follow the Islamic banking system, which bans charging interest. For the time being, he said interest would be canceled from any personal loans already taken out less than 10,000 Libyan dinars (about $7,500).

He also announced that all military personnel and civilians who have taken part in the fight against Gadhafi would be promoted to the rank above their existing one. He said a package of perks would later be announced for all fighters.

"Thank You, thank you to the fighters who achieved victory, both civilians and military," he said. He also paid tribute to the Gulf Cooperation Council, a six-nation alliance led by Saudi Arabia, The Arab League and the European Union. NATO, which aided the anti-Gadhafi fighters with airstrikes, performed its task with "efficiency and professionalism."


Well, so much for the revolution.
 
Is it a 2 week package?
 
It's probably going to be a modernized Sharia Law like a majority of Muslim countries. There are plenty of countries that use it as a baseline.
Sharia law is fine for their culture. Sharia doesnt = Terrorist.
 
You can't force democracy on people who do'nt want it. I think our govt's failure in Iraq/Afghan proves that (unless you're still niave and think we the wars will make us safer).

c
 
yeah I know how enticing the jump to conclusions matt is, but let's hold off on it anyway alright?

That being said the U.S govt cannot be happy about the financial changes cause i'll bet alot of american business interests were keen on opening up a potential mkt. Not now. We'll see how fundamentalist they get. Brown browns right, sharia doesn't "necessarily" mean they're gonna be taliban like and flog women who are trying to get to school. The arab spring didn't have those kinds of fundamentalist overtones, did i have any illusions that they were all of a sudden gonna let KFC and Micky D's in through the door and let Greenspan come in and set up their financial infrastructure...hell no. Best we can hope for is that they tone down the rhetoric as long as we leave em alone now.
 
Imagine if Texas succeeded in ceding from the union yesterday and claimed they were going to base their values on the Bible.

Of course they might not re-impose slavery based on the curse of Lott but it would still suck to live there if you happened to be female or another type of second class citizen based on Bronze Age ideology.
 
Imagine if Texas succeeded in ceding from the union yesterday and claimed they were going to base their values on the Bible.

Of course they might not re-impose slavery based on the curse of Lott but it would still suck to live there if you happened to be female or another type of second class citizen based on Bronze Age ideology.
Probably sucked more under Ghadafi, It's not going to get any worse than that if this government keeps control.
I wish Texas would succeed.
It sucks to live in American in the poverty level. You make that observation like you give a fuck. But, from your prior posts on political subjects.... You DON'T. Your just making a negative statement about Sharia Law, just because?????
 
Imagine if Texas succeeded in ceding from the union yesterday and claimed they were going to base their values on the Bible.

Of course they might not re-impose slavery based on the curse of Lott but it would still suck to live there if you happened to be female or another type of second class citizen based on Bronze Age ideology.

Would that Texas system be based on OT or NT?
 
Imagine if Texas succeeded in ceding from the union yesterday and claimed they were going to base their values on the Bible.

Of course they might not re-impose slavery based on the curse of Lott but it would still suck to live there if you happened to be female or another type of second class citizen based on Bronze Age ideology.

Solid analogy.
 
democracy is mob rule, so i'd say we accomplished what we set out to do, the people now want to follow a set of rules that are not founded in our constitutional guide lines.. but rather in cultural norms for that part of the world..

I think i summed that up nicely ..

way to go barry..
 
If I'm not mistaken, that type of law structure basically prohibits womens rights, and makes it legal to beat wives, etc, and prevents abusive husbands from being caught. It also allows for arrest and prosecution (even execution) of Jews, Christians, and any other infidels. I smell a rat.

Charles
 
If I'm not mistaken, that type of law structure basically prohibits womens rights, and makes it legal to beat wives, etc, and prevents abusive husbands from being caught. It also allows for arrest and prosecution (even execution) of Jews, Christians, and any other infidels. I smell a rat.

Charles


yet women have had huge parts in the arab uprisings. Something else is going on, it's not traditional "fundamentalist" Islam...look, it may very well be equally as hostile to the west, but I think it's a new guard emerging. Islam is undergoing a transformation and something tells me there's going to be a huge war in the middle east coming up between the old and new. Please god grant whatever politicians are in washington at the time, please grant them the sage wisdom to stay the fuck out of that one. I know there will be alot of little white erections sprouting all over washington when that one goes down but please god keep us out of that one.
 
yet women have had huge parts in the arab uprisings. Something else is going on, it's not traditional "fundamentalist" Islam...look, it may very well be equally as hostile to the west, but I think it's a new guard emerging. Islam is undergoing a transformation and something tells me there's going to be a huge war in the middle east coming up between the old and new. Please god grant whatever politicians are in washington at the time, please grant them the sage wisdom to stay the fuck out of that one. I know there will be alot of little white erections sprouting all over washington when that one goes down but please god keep us out of that one.

It sounds like you are eagerly anticipating this event.
 
So this has all gone horribly wrong and will be a stain that just won't wash off of Barry's CV.

You wish...
 
Under Sharia Law if nan makes a subpar roast she is subject to flogging by her husband
 


Of course him. You don't walk into a gay/tranny bar and spend the entire night unless you're down with the man batter.

I'm still lol'ing at how they hide it in plain sight infront of everyone. Yeah just a couple'a regular good ole southern boys spending an entire evening in New Orleans, which has absurdly beautiful women, in a gay bar filled with homeless crossdressers. It's one thing to do a pop in, kind of like a safari drive by...it's another to spend your entire evening there.

Jussayin.

:rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow:
 
I was toying with the idea of implementing sharia law around the shop, however I don't know how to threaten a flogging in Spanish and Vietnamese.
 
This is a surprise? Libya was bound to become ruled by extreme Muslims or a bloodthirsty, dictator. You can't spread liberty and peace with the barrel of a gun and the drop of a bomb.
 
Probably sucked more under Ghadafi, It's not going to get any worse than that if this government keeps control.
I wish Texas would succeed.
It sucks to live in American in the poverty level. You make that observation like you give a fuck. But, from your prior posts on political subjects.... You DON'T. Your just making a negative statement about Sharia Law, just because?????

lol...sucks to live in poverty compared to what?

What is Poverty in the United States: Air Conditioning, Cable TV and an Xbox

"As scholar James Q. Wilson has stated, “The poorest Americans today live a better life than all but the richest persons a hundred years ago.”[3] In 2005, the typical household defined as poor by the government had a car and air conditioning. For entertainment, the household had two color televisions, cable or satellite TV, a DVD player, and a VCR. If there were children, especially boys, in the home, the family had a game system, such as an Xbox or a PlayStation.[4] In the kitchen, the household had a refrigerator, an oven and stove, and a microwave. Other household conveniences included a clothes washer, clothes dryer, ceiling fans, a cordless phone, and a coffee maker."

Compare that to how most of the worlds population lives....Being poverty stricken in the United States is like living like a king in many other countries. How good is it to be a woman in Afghanistan, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia? If sharia is so super awesome would you trade places with a gay man in Iran or a woman in Saudi Arabia? I took a class in comparative legal systems as an elective in law school and religious/tribal based systems are the most regressive when it comes to human rights and dignity.
 
If you have to ask, I have once again over estimated your intelligence.
I have been around the world, and have seen TRUE poverty. Along with that info, I have lived in EVERY CORNER OF THE U.S.A. and in every where in between. A.C. , CABLE, AND XBOX is not a gauge of wealth, Shit, next you will say refrigerators and owning a car makes them fortune 500 worthy....
I skimmed your post after clicking the link and seeing it was from the "HERITAGE FOUNDATION'' . That is NOT a credible source of factual information. And most people know that the American poverty level is considered $12,000 a year or less. That is $8,000 more a year than most countries lower class (non-poverty level)
 
If you have to ask, I have once again over estimated your intelligence.
I have been around the world, and have seen TRUE poverty. Along with that info, I have lived in EVERY CORNER OF THE U.S.A. and in every where in between. A.C. , CABLE, AND XBOX is not a gauge of wealth, Shit, next you will say refrigerators and owning a car makes them fortune 500 worthy....
I skimmed your post after clicking the link and seeing it was from the "HERITAGE FOUNDATION'' . That is NOT a credible source of factual information. And most people know that the American poverty level is considered $12,000 a year or less. That is $8,000 more a year than most countries lower class (non-poverty level)

So angry!

Curiosity has overcome me, so I must ask: What are you doing posting at 3:00 am? Work or just up and around? Is this a late night or an early morning?
 
So angry!

Curiosity has overcome me, so I must ask: What are you doing posting at 3:00 am? Work or just up and around? Is this a late night or an early morning?
Not angry,




Curiostiy for the pussy= I'm off work and have a couple days off. I am up and around, playing guitar, having a drink, and checking EF..... Anything else would you like to know for your spank bank Squidky?
 
Not angry,




Curiostiy for the pussy= I'm off work and have a couple days off. I am upyu and around, playing guitar, having a drink, and checking EF..... Anything else would you like to know for your spank bank Squidky?


Yes. One last question:

Why do I always accidentally agitate the retarded kid on EF?
 
where the hell does this shit come from? Java c'mon man.....where you're goin they're tellin people poor people in this country have an hdtv in every other room with an xbox and ps3 hooked up. This simply isn't true dood. It really isn't. It's something people tell themselves so they don't have to look the truth in the face. Do alot of people in ghetto's have video game systems? of course....and guess what they do to get the money for it? What we'd kind of like to see is an economic environment where people didn't have to risk going to prison to acquire certain goods. But that's the only way anybody has anything



lol...sucks to live in poverty compared to what?

What is Poverty in the United States: Air Conditioning, Cable TV and an Xbox

"As scholar James Q. Wilson has stated, “The poorest Americans today live a better life than all but the richest persons a hundred years ago.”[3] In 2005, the typical household defined as poor by the government had a car and air conditioning. For entertainment, the household had two color televisions, cable or satellite TV, a DVD player, and a VCR. If there were children, especially boys, in the home, the family had a game system, such as an Xbox or a PlayStation.[4] In the kitchen, the household had a refrigerator, an oven and stove, and a microwave. Other household conveniences included a clothes washer, clothes dryer, ceiling fans, a cordless phone, and a coffee maker."

Compare that to how most of the worlds population lives....Being poverty stricken in the United States is like living like a king in many other countries. How good is it to be a woman in Afghanistan, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia? If sharia is so super awesome would you trade places with a gay man in Iran or a woman in Saudi Arabia? I took a class in comparative legal systems as an elective in law school and religious/tribal based systems are the most regressive when it comes to human rights and dignity.
 
where the hell does this shit come from? Java c'mon man.....where you're goin they're tellin people poor people in this country have an hdtv in every other room with an xbox and ps3 hooked up. This simply isn't true dood. It really isn't. It's something people tell themselves so they don't have to look the truth in the face. Do alot of people in ghetto's have video game systems? of course....and guess what they do to get the money for it? What we'd kind of like to see is an economic environment where people didn't have to risk going to prison to acquire certain goods. But that's the only way anybody has anything

I'm sure the CEO of Enron felt the same way -- just his "certain goods" have a higher price on the tag.
 
are we comparing food and other basic staples with luxury yachts?







pssst...yes there's a difference

You mean basic staples like plasma TV's, cars, cell phones, pot and gaming consoles?

Yeah, I am comparing those "staples" to luxury yachts.
 
no i don't mean, cause poor people don't have those....drug dealers yes, not poor people. Understand?

Are you trying to argue that no one below the poverty line who isn't a drug dealer has a plasma TV, car, cell phone, pot or gaming consoles?
 
Are you trying to argue that no one below the poverty line who isn't a drug dealer has a plasma TV, car, cell phone, pot or gaming consoles?

yep pretty much....maybe cell phones but we're not talkin smartphones. Probably have 20 year old cars too. They may also now own orginal ps1's, ps2's may now be dropping into that price range but nobody at poverty line level is buying a $500 video game system or $2000 hdtv's. That's just unfettered hallucinating on the parts of people like you who are trying to make reality fit their predetermined notions.
 
yep pretty much....maybe cell phones but we're not talkin smartphones. Probably have 20 year old cars too. They may also now own orginal ps1's, ps2's may now be dropping into that price range but nobody at poverty line level is buying a $500 video game system or $2000 hdtv's. That's just unfettered hallucinating on the parts of people like you who are trying to make reality fit their predetermined notions.

Let's retool our bet. Winner picks loser's sig for 90 days immediately after the conclusion of the bet. Winner's sig must conform with EF rules, but otherwise anything goes.

You maintain that no one below the poverty line has a plasma TV, a car less than 20 years old, a console game better than a PS1 or a smart phone.

Deal?
 
Let's retool our bet. Winner picks loser's sig for 90 days immediately after the conclusion of the bet. Winner's sig must conform with EF rules, but otherwise anything goes.

You maintain that no one below the poverty line has a plasma TV, a car less than 20 years old, a console game better than a PS1 or a smart phone.

Deal?


yes that's what I'm saying unless they're pulling in cash from auxiliary sources...which I know they do. For people not engaging in that no, they don't....do you find a few people in the country who may be getting helped out by other family members and that along with their govt. assistance allows them these things...sure I guess you'll find statistical outliers. But if you actually spend any amount of time with poor people you wouldn't be having this discussion with me.
 
yes that's what I'm saying unless they're pulling in cash from auxiliary sources...which I know they do. For people not engaging in that no, they don't....do you find a few people in the country who may be getting helped out by other family members and that along with their govt. assistance allows them these things...sure I guess you'll find statistical outliers. But if you actually spend any amount of time with poor people you wouldn't be having this discussion with me.


Don't pussy out with a bunch of outs now. I posted a bet. You in or are you talking out of your ass again?
 
Don't pussy out with a bunch of outs now. I posted a bet. You in or are you talking out of your ass again?


if you think you "know" that there are poor people left and right in this country just propping up our economy with all their high end electronics purchases...by all means post up your "proof". I am in no mood to get into any bet with you because I can see where that's going already. You are a politician you will dance the night away if you find just one set of poor people who have an xbox. Problem is you can't prove that any poor people who do have these high value electronics purchases bought them with their 9k salary. I mean a $2000 tv is 20% of what some of these people make in a whole year and you're telling me they're living fat just from their poverty line wages?
Obviously alot of these people are pulling in income from other places.....
 
ahhh it was that heritage foundation article that's got you all lathered up isn't it monkey?.....

Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United States Today?By Robert Rector and Rachel Sheffield
July 19, 2011
 
ahhh it was that heritage foundation article that's got you all lathered up isn't it monkey?.....

Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United States Today?By Robert Rector and Rachel Sheffield
July 19, 2011

link?
 
if you think you "know" that there are poor people left and right in this country just propping up our economy with all their high end electronics purchases...by all means post up your "proof". I am in no mood to get into any bet with you because I can see where that's going already. You are a politician you will dance the night away if you find just one set of poor people who have an xbox. Problem is you can't prove that any poor people who do have these high value electronics purchases bought them with their 9k salary. I mean a $2000 tv is 20% of what some of these people make in a whole year and you're telling me they're living fat just from their poverty line wages?
Obviously alot of these people are pulling in income from other places.....

tl;dr

Two choices: Pussy out or take the original bet?
 
just because you say "bet" doesn't mean i'm somehow beholden to you for that....i'm having a debate, not a bet. So post up or shut up. Is that "clear"?

No it means when it comes time to put your sig where your mouth is, you back-paddle away from the ridiculous statements you make.

You made an outrageously dumb statement.

I gave you an opportunity to refine your statement.

I then proposed a bet for you regarding that refined statement.

So are we betting or are we not?
 
wait a minute, "I" made the dumb statement? You're the one claiming poor people are rolling the life fantastic...I'm claiming that people at poverty line level incomes who are not getting extraneous sources of untaxeable cash are not goin out and buying 2k TV's when I know they can barely feed themselves CAUSE I"VE SEEN IT!! Are some people scamming the welfare system? OF COURSE, they work somewhere on teh side and claim the need for welfare so they are in fact NOT making poverty line incomes. Those people with 'real" poverty line incomes are not putting hdtv's in every room. God what is so difficult here?
 
wait a minute, "I" made the dumb statement? You're the one claiming poor people are rolling the life fantastic...I'm claiming that people at poverty line level incomes who are not getting extraneous sources of untaxeable cash are not goin out and buying 2k TV's when I know they can barely feed themselves CAUSE I"VE SEEN IT!! Are some people scamming the welfare system? OF COURSE, they work somewhere on teh side and claim the need for welfare so they are in fact NOT making poverty line incomes. Those people with 'real" poverty line incomes are not putting hdtv's in every room. God what is so difficult here?

Please link a quote by me that claims poor people are "rolling the life fantastic". Or to you, is owning ~1,000-2,000 worth of material possessions "the life fantastic"?
 
"rolling the life fantastic" ... I like that

it'll be a welcum addition to PICK3's vernacular




just sayin'
 
then you have nothing, so i'm done with this thread.

You were done the moment I threw the bet out there.

Forcing you to put your money where your mouth is makes you run like a cockroach to the nearest dark recess.
 
You were done the moment I threw the bet out there.

Forcing you to put your money where your mouth is makes you run like a cockroach to the nearest dark recess.


what money? dude, you don't have anything otherwise you'd post it. You're just bluffing cause you know I don't do "bets" of any kind. You have ONE article that spoon feeds you your convenient narrative...you know it's an impossible "proof" one way or the other. Except to those with common sense that is. And/or people who have actually seen how people live in this country.
 
what money? dude, you don't have anything otherwise you'd post it. You're just bluffing cause you know I don't do "bets" of any kind. You have ONE article that spoon feeds you your convenient narrative...you know it's an impossible "proof" one way or the other. Except to those with common sense that is. And/or people who have actually seen how people live in this country.

You've never placed a bet of any kind, including a bookie bet on EF, in your entire life?
 
yeah, "never"...of any kind. Don't even play fantasy football.

So you keep up with all that ridiculous football crap and you're trying to tell us you've never even bet a beer on a game? You've never bet anyone a dinner? Or never played pool where the loser pays for the game? You've never made a bet you could get a girl's number and won or lost a drink?
 
So you keep up with all that ridiculous football crap and you're trying to tell us you've never even bet a beer on a game? You've never bet anyone a dinner? Or never played pool where the loser pays for the game? You've never made a bet you could get a girl's number and won or lost a drink?


what ridiculous football crap? I watch the browns....and not even them anymore if they let Hillis out the door.

and no, don't beleive i've ever bet anyone a dinner either. Don't know the how or why that would even take place.
 
what ridiculous football crap? I watch the browns....and not even them anymore if they let Hillis out the door.

and no, don't beleive i've ever bet anyone a dinner either. Don't know the how or why that would even take place.

You must be a lot of fun!

And I never saw you betting on getting a girl's number in a bar. That was a trick question to see if you'd lie.
 
You must be a lot of fun!

And I never saw you betting on getting a girl's number in a bar. That was a trick question to see if you'd lie.


I guess your fun and my fun are different...

and do you really do that, betting on getting a girls number? really? god, i ddin't think i could respect you less. Honestly, but it's happening right now...less and less. Do you really call yourself a grown ass man?
 
I guess your fun and my fun are different...

and do you really do that, betting on getting a girls number? really? god, i ddin't think i could respect you less. Honestly, but it's happening right now...less and less. Do you really call yourself a grown ass man?

Of course I used to make side bets on getting a girl's number. It's something any normal, heterosexual guy would...

Oh wait. You wouldn't understand.
 
If you have to ask, I have once again over estimated your intelligence.
I have been around the world, and have seen TRUE poverty. Along with that info, I have lived in EVERY CORNER OF THE U.S.A. and in every where in between. A.C. , CABLE, AND XBOX is not a gauge of wealth, Shit, next you will say refrigerators and owning a car makes them fortune 500 worthy....
I skimmed your post after clicking the link and seeing it was from the "HERITAGE FOUNDATION'' . That is NOT a credible source of factual information. And most people know that the American poverty level is considered $12,000 a year or less. That is $8,000 more a year than most countries lower class (non-poverty level)

Why is the Heritage Foundation not a source of factual information? Do you consider the Brookings Institute a source of factual information? How about the GAO? Last time I checked, you evaluate published material based on the individual merits and not some ideological criteria.

Owning a car, having an air conditioned apartment, a refrigerator to ensure the food you buy won't kill you, clean water and uninterrupted power makes the poorest Americans better off than 90% of the worlds population....that's a fact. Not to mention the poorest person in the United States has more opportunities for self-advancement than in any other country. I know the liberals like to point to western Europe as the ideal society but 10% unemployment is considered normal and there is almost zero class advancement... you better score high on a standardized test to even have the opportunity to pursue higher education, in the United States the dumbest among us get to pursue higher education even if half will never graduate.
 
where the hell does this shit come from? Java c'mon man.....where you're goin they're tellin people poor people in this country have an hdtv in every other room with an xbox and ps3 hooked up. This simply isn't true dood. It really isn't. It's something people tell themselves so they don't have to look the truth in the face. Do alot of people in ghetto's have video game systems? of course....and guess what they do to get the money for it? What we'd kind of like to see is an economic environment where people didn't have to risk going to prison to acquire certain goods. But that's the only way anybody has anything

Colin Powell, Herman Cain, Walter Williams and many others overcame poverty without resorting to the stereotype you are propagating for people that were born in poverty.

 
Let's retool our bet. Winner picks loser's sig for 90 days immediately after the conclusion of the bet. Winner's sig must conform with EF rules, but otherwise anything goes.

You maintain that no one below the poverty line has a plasma TV, a car less than 20 years old, a console game better than a PS1 or a smart phone.

Deal?

non-plat scum don't get sigs.
 
Why is the Heritage Foundation not a source of factual information? .


On this particular issue the foundations assertions are utterly laughable. Basically the only thing they have right is that our poor people do live better then say...zimbabwe's poor. But look, we now know the kind of lending practices that were being handed out a few years back. So just because people were printing money out of thin air then throwing it anybody they could sink their dirty little rat paws into, then selling the inevitable default to china.....well that's not a real free market paradigm right there. Me thinks the free credit monetary structure which basically hands out monopoly money to anybody that it can so that it can create more monopoly money off the ever expanding debt bubble....well that's just not valid. This is what Ron Paul got up in Bernanke for.
 
On this particular issue the foundations assertions are utterly laughable. Basically the only thing they have right is that our poor people do live better then say...zimbabwe's poor. But look, we now know the kind of lending practices that were being handed out a few years back. So just because people were printing money out of thin air then throwing it anybody they could sink their dirty little rat paws into, then selling the inevitable default to china.....well that's not a real free market paradigm right there. Me thinks the free credit monetary structure which basically hands out monopoly money to anybody that it can so that it can create more monopoly money off the ever expanding debt bubble....well that's just not valid. This is what Ron Paul got up in Bernanke for.

So, were these poor people given a government education? Were they capable of reading the terms of the contract they signed? Were they capable of asking about the terms of the mortgage they signed before they signed it? Did the Federal Reserve artificially lower interest rates creating a system where Wall Street needed to create new instruments for investors?

The answer to all these questions...Yes... Wall Street may be a drug dealer but they only supply a demand.

It amazes me that people think Wall Street is fucking them...you are being fucked by your government. No corporation can show up at your door and take your money via force, they have to convince you to voluntarily give up your money. I posted articles by economists on this board as early as 2004 about the housing bubble and I was ridiculed for being stupid and not taking advantage of the real estate bubble...Guess what, greedy people should get fucked.
 
So, were these poor people given a government education? Were they capable of reading the terms of the contract they signed? Were they capable of asking about the terms of the mortgage they signed before they signed it? Did the Federal Reserve artificially lower interest rates creating a system where Wall Street needed to create new instruments for investors?

The answer to all these questions...Yes... Wall Street may be a drug dealer but they only supply a demand.

It amazes me that people think Wall Street is fucking them...you are being fucked by your government. No corporation can show up at your door and take your money via force, they have to convince you to voluntarily give up your money. I posted articles by economists on this board as early as 2004 about the housing bubble and I was ridiculed for being stupid and not taking advantage of the real estate bubble...Guess what, greedy people should get fucked.

^^^ This.

People don't realize that a customer is the worst boss ever. They don't have to give you notice, pay you severance, warn you, give you sick days, fire you for just cause, buy-out your vacation days or pay you unemployment.'
 
wow java are you seriously excusing corruption simply because some poor uneducated people are easy to dupe? You may not be who i thought you were.


So, were these poor people given a government education? Were they capable of reading the terms of the contract they signed? Were they capable of asking about the terms of the mortgage they signed before they signed it? Did the Federal Reserve artificially lower interest rates creating a system where Wall Street needed to create new instruments for investors?

The answer to all these questions...Yes... Wall Street may be a drug dealer but they only supply a demand.

It amazes me that people think Wall Street is fucking them...you are being fucked by your government. No corporation can show up at your door and take your money via force, they have to convince you to voluntarily give up your money. I posted articles by economists on this board as early as 2004 about the housing bubble and I was ridiculed for being stupid and not taking advantage of the real estate bubble...Guess what, greedy people should get fucked.
 
wow java are you seriously excusing corruption simply because some poor uneducated people are easy to dupe? You may not be who i thought you were.

How many lawsuits have been filed against mortgage companies for misrepresenting their products? Trial lawyers are all about this kind of shit... It amazes me that people think greed only flows from wealth...There were teachers, cops, union workers and firefighters closing on two properties in the same week because they knew the system wouldn't catch their speculation. Like I said, I was called a dumbass for not buying into the real estate bubble...Who is laughing now...me... because I'm not stuck with a property that I will paying taxes on that will be underwater for the next ten years...
 
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