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Let's talk oestrogen
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centeroiler
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Oestrogen makes things really purdy too.
Yes, it does! On my girl it sure does anyway. Nothing worse than an overly-masculine woman. Sleek, feminine muscle, like yours is very pretty.
However, in a male I still feel that very moderate estrogen control is a good thing, for me anyways. I just don't want the bloat, BHP, Gyno, moodiness (htf do chicks live with stuff?), etc. Unless I had a need for ultimate size, like if I were entering a competition, why deal with all that when you don't have to.
LOL. I'm saying to myself: "Wtf is Oestrogen???" I did a search. I guess the U.S. is the only place that calls it just Estrogen. Go figure.
Tatyana
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Women get moody when our hormones crash, so it is the lack of oestrogen, not it's presence.
Sort of like coming off a heavy cycle with no PCT.
Women get moody when our hormones crash, so it is the lack of oestrogen, not it's presence.
Sort of like coming off a heavy cycle with no PCT.
Actually, studies show that women report feeling the best during ovulation; which is when estrogen is at its lowest and progesterone it at its highest.
PMS, on the other hand, occurs just prior to menses when progesterone is at it's lowest and estrogen is at its highest.
Tatyana
Elite Mentor
I think you have that reversed.
centeroiler
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Women get moody when our hormones crash, so it is the lack of oestrogen, not it's presence.
Sort of like coming off a heavy cycle with no PCT.
Wow, you learn something new every day. So, when my girlfriend is being a B... ah, "moody", I should maybe slip her a mickey of some estro and she'll snap out of it? haha
Seriously, I don't know about the analogy to PCT though. It seems that estrogen would be at its highest after a heavy cycle with no PCT, accounting for the moodiness. IDK.
i make suspension and prop from syno. and i do NOT use an estro solubizer. i make the prop with a simple fina kit and susp with heat ba, bb, and bac.
no complaints here. i use ai's if estro problems start and nolva or clomid if my nips get sore.
i am also gyno prone. i have used a few widely trusted ug's and comparing my own to theirs i like mine better. not to mention the saved $.
i dont understand the huge fear of estro myself. yes we dont want gyno but its not hard to kick in the ass as soon as you feal the signs.
if they only had winny, dbol, and var implants........
no complaints here. i use ai's if estro problems start and nolva or clomid if my nips get sore.
i am also gyno prone. i have used a few widely trusted ug's and comparing my own to theirs i like mine better. not to mention the saved $.
i dont understand the huge fear of estro myself. yes we dont want gyno but its not hard to kick in the ass as soon as you feal the signs.
if they only had winny, dbol, and var implants........
Tatyana
Elite Mentor
Wow, you learn something new every day. So, when my girlfriend is being a B... ah, "moody", I should maybe slip her a mickey of some estro and she'll snap out of it? haha
Seriously, I don't know about the analogy to PCT though. It seems that estrogen would be at its highest after a heavy cycle with no PCT, accounting for the moodiness. IDK.
I think that has more to do with the differences in the normal hormone profiles for men and women.
Sex hormones make our brains develop differently and express a different density of receptors in utero.
I wouldn't think that oestrogen would have entirely the same effect on a man as it does on a woman.
sorry Tatyana, as a non-plat I can't really read the graph you attached but I do know that high progesterone levels are one of the ways they look for ovulation in women who are experiencing fertility problems.
Maybe it's only the ratio of progesterone to estrogen that's highest during ovulation.
BigRed66
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There is evidence that estrogen upgrades the androgen receptors so you get a better reaction from gear. The best bulking stacks always include at least one aromatizable/estrogenic compound. Anadrol is one of the strongest mass builders there is and it has it's own estrogenic properties which contribute to the big size and strength gains. But, like most good things, too much is a bad thing and estrogen should always be controled depending on sensitivity to gyno, bloating, etc.
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